New toy......

[Kris]

Nice one Nick APX is easy, you dont need anyone or any special tricks to change stuff - its all in the manual

They are easier than the normal road bike, because theres less bullshit to go wrong and less stupid red light errors that the Magnetti has

They are good bikes - like you said, different above 9/10k!

[Marshy]

You were sayin it had less powa than those scary Nazi chariots ... So just smootha & fasta thru the corners?

Hey Rick, yeah, it's definitely less power than the german messerschmitts. But because of the V4 configuration, it puts more of the fewer ponies down more easily, so the difference isn't as much as the on-paper difference. Interestingly, the more people I speak to about both bikes, the more people fall clearly into either the BMW or the Aprilia camps! People that really love the Beemer are left unmoved by the Ape, and people that love the Ape don't at all care for the Beemer. They are equally fast, but just go about their performance in markedly different ways. Think Ferrari versus Nissan GTR, or HSV versus WRX. Equal but very different.

Nice one Nick APX is easy, you dont need anyone or any special tricks to change stuff - its all in the manual

They are easier than the normal road bike, because theres less bullshit to go wrong and less stupid red light errors that the Magnetti has

They are good bikes - like you said, different above 9/10k!

Thanks Kris. I was flying blind, without the manual, so I missed the bit about IP addresses (most of it was intuitive anyway). Liam sent me the manual later yesterday, so I'll have a play with it over the next few days. There's no GPS module tho, do you have one? It'd be useful for data analysis, as the Aprilia software looks extremely comprehensive!

[Kris]

Hey Rick, yeah, it's definitely less power than the german messerschmitts. But because of the V4 configuration, it puts more of the fewer ponies down more easily, so the difference isn't as much as the on-paper difference. Interestingly, the more people I speak to about both bikes, the more people fall clearly into either the BMW or the Aprilia camps! People that really love the Beemer are left unmoved by the Ape, and people that love the Ape don't at all care for the Beemer. They are equally fast, but just go about their performance in markedly different ways. Think Ferrari versus Nissan GTR, or HSV versus WRX. Equal but very different.



Thanks Kris. I was flying blind, without the manual, so I missed the bit about IP addresses (most of it was intuitive anyway). Liam sent me the manual later yesterday, so I'll have a play with it over the next few days. There's no GPS module tho, do you have one? It'd be useful for data analysis, as the Aprilia software looks extremely comprehensive!

Yep, I have the GPS but my ECU is different - think yours is black from memory and the SST?

So, APX manages idle very different. Ensure the idle percent is set to 2.1%. I doubt the fueling is off. The OEM map is very good. If the idle is lower than this it will stall frequently and youll think wow it idles so high but thats normal. If you want to adjust the fueling, youll need to get the headers modified to have a bung placed in each cylinder - dont just adjust fueling in ARES with a single lambda. As I said, the OEM map is very very good and chances are the idle might have been played with.

[Marshy]

Yep, I have the GPS but my ECU is different - think yours is black from memory and the SST?

So, APX manages idle very different. Ensure the idle percent is set to 2.1%. I doubt the fueling is off. The OEM map is very good. If the idle is lower than this it will stall frequently and youll think wow it idles so high but thats normal. If you want to adjust the fueling, youll need to get the headers modified to have a bung placed in each cylinder - dont just adjust fueling in ARES with a single lambda. As I said, the OEM map is very very good and chances are the idle might have been played with.

Thanks mate, yeah this bike has the black APX (the '14 has the red one, but I haven't got that one yet.... not until FX in Dec). Good tip - I'll look at the idle, thanks!!

[Marshy]

Oh, and I'm gonna need to talk to Dave Ward, I think. I'm guessing the fuelling at or near idle is way off. It's very hard to start in the mornings, and it easily stalls when trying to gently ride out of the garage. Apparently before the APX was fitted, none of these problems existed, so it's something to do with the APX.