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Marshy
23-02-2014, 07:17 PM
So after persevering with that bulbous Suzuki for long enough, Rick has finally seen the light and decided to join the cool kids on an R6!! :clap: :cheer:

This is the build thread for his bike, to get the blood pumping for him while he's stuck over in mining-central, Perth.

Picked it up. It's an 09 model, but plated 08. Gotta love those ones. Ultra-minimal damage, as you can see. Only a couple of light scratches.

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Now, let's get nekked....

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First thing is always an Annitori quickshifter.....

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Decided to put the plug under the seat too, for ease of access.

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Airbox off, pesky smog gear removed:

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K&N filer, cleaned and oiled:

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More to come soon.....

chubb
23-02-2014, 07:27 PM
Looks pretty clean.

Why don't you just get a couple of proper block off plates already???

Cost like $20. Cheep cheep

Baddie
23-02-2014, 07:28 PM
Bloody hell nick...garage must be full.
Need any help with a recent white bike purchase I have room in my garage. ������

johnnyb
23-02-2014, 08:57 PM
Good to see Rick...you will love it.

I will see what spares I have left over for ya.

Marshy
23-02-2014, 09:05 PM
Why don't you just get a couple of proper block off plates already???

Because I'm
Cheep cheep
















(Really it's because I don't have any here, even though I had that block-off rubber thingy for the airbox left over from a previous set. Without that, I would've had to order some and wait).

Marshy
23-02-2014, 11:32 PM
Forks out, exhaust off, rearsets and shift sensor fitted.

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Mr.Ed
24-02-2014, 12:32 AM
Good work from the both of you! Hope there's a midpipe and a new clutch lever on the shoppinng list

Marshy
24-02-2014, 05:49 AM
Yep, mid-pipe is on its way, and levers are in stock ;)

dan
24-02-2014, 08:55 AM
Oh Rick, I thought we were a team :(

Baddie
24-02-2014, 09:09 AM
What the white and blue R6 in the back ground????

How many did you buy?????

Marshy
24-02-2014, 09:45 AM
Customer bike. Just doing some maintenance work on it.

Phat3R
24-02-2014, 10:54 AM
Oh Rick, I thought we were a team :(

Sorry Dan ... I growed tired of loozin 3 seconds a lap on that main straight to dem R6's ... I needed me a UA too.

I'm going to ship the old girl over to WA ... I'll fix her up for some fun in the sun.

Phat3R
24-02-2014, 10:56 AM
Good to see Rick...you will love it.

I will see what spares I have left over for ya.

Thx John, I'm back at Easter ... was going to book SMSP ride days at Easter Sun & Mon for some quality R6 time.

dan
24-02-2014, 10:59 AM
Sorry Dan ... I growed tired of loozin 3 seconds a lap on that main straight to dem R6's ... I needed me a UA too.

I'm going to ship the old girl over to WA ... I'll fix her up for some fun in the sun.

Gotta treat yourself after spending 3months in WA!

Oh course I'll be first to know when you are looking to sell and get rid of your spares, right?

Phat3R
24-02-2014, 11:53 AM
Gotta treat yourself after spending 3months in WA!

Oh course I'll be first to know when you are looking to sell and get rid of your spares, right?

Last chance in Nov for me as D grader to win some sort of plastic trophy. To stand a chance against the current field, little old slow coach me will need as many UA's as pozzible. Once I get put into C grade I'll never see a shiny plastic mug again! :)

Spares!!! I keep using them all for rebuilds mate! The eBay HK option for fairing stay has gone to arbitration after 3 months no supply. If you do need GIXA fairings, I've got several sets in varying states of prettyness. ;)

James_
24-02-2014, 12:49 PM
Congrats on the new ride Rick!! Nice knowing you, I'll wave as you lap me.


Perhaps there should be a seperate class for UA's. You can all cheat together!










Yes. I am jealous.

Spilly209
24-02-2014, 02:01 PM
Congrats Rick, shame you didn't get to use it at the creek and the race meet!


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johnnyb
24-02-2014, 09:09 PM
Cool....I'm booked on Sun 20th. Hope you can make it.



Thx John, I'm back at Easter ... was going to book SMSP ride days at Easter Sun & Mon for some quality R6 time.

Saturnalian
24-02-2014, 10:02 PM
Nice one Marshy. Onya Rick. Was this the Newcastle bike Nick ? It looks like its been very well looked after.

Phat3R
24-02-2014, 10:26 PM
Congrats on the new ride Rick!! Nice knowing you, I'll wave as you lap me.
Perhaps there should be a seperate class for UA's. You can all cheat together!
Yes. I am jealous.

Mate I am going to miss our battles ... You gotta go R6 UA too.

You will probably still beat me off the starts as I am working out how to get the damn front wheel back on the ground. :madgrin: Once I got the front back down on the ground on R2 on Sat all I could think was well I farked that up, plan B, quick follow James as he cuts through the field ... I reckon you made up 15 places off the start, I was right behind you trying to keep up. ;-)

Phat3R
24-02-2014, 10:43 PM
Nick you are a machine , at this rate it will be finished yesterday, and I will be eying cheap Friday flights at work. :).

Rode to work today for the first time, foot feels OK, but can't easily load the outer peg on left handerz, when on ball of foot, without shot of pain to remind me that wasn't a good idea. So good to get back on 2 wheels again.

It's O Week at Uni this week, and OMG there are some amazing sights to behold!

Marshy
24-02-2014, 11:12 PM
It's coming along nicely. More work today. Exhaust is off, in preparation for the mid-pipe. Race tyres are fitted and balanced. Rear shock is out, ready for some revalving and Ohlins goodness. Ditto the forks. Did an oil and filter change, and fitted EC gearing. The OEM clipons are off, and race ones will go on shortly. Oh, and fitted a Superbike Source radiator guard! (It's the little things, the attention to detail....)

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chubb
25-02-2014, 08:17 AM
What rear sets are those???

Marshy
25-02-2014, 08:48 AM
What rear sets are those???

Superbike Source. They are actually quite impressive, I reckon. Lots of adjustment, and very strong. Spilly tested a set recently, and they survived incredibly well - the peg ground down and bent on the bolt a bit, but nothing snapped off and it saved the bike from more serious damage. I haven't been advertising them, because in an ideal world I'd design them with more grip on the very outer edge of the peg. But I've come from Vortex, where the pegs rip holes in your boot (and shins in the garage!), so I like a very grippy peg. Easily fixed with replacement pegs, though. Or often people reckon they're fine as is.

Mr.Ed
25-02-2014, 11:29 AM
Folding toepegs?

Marshy
25-02-2014, 06:46 PM
Folding toepegs?

No, they're fixed.

Marshy
27-02-2014, 10:30 PM
So, back to it tonight. Rear shock is rebuilt, resprung (a bit heavy, but it'll do until the new one arrives), and back in the bike. Rear wheel back on. Then lockwire, lockwire and more lockwire.

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Baddie
27-02-2014, 11:19 PM
:thumb:

Marshy
01-03-2014, 08:06 PM
Forgot to show the rear shock being rebuilt and valved....

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Mid-pipe is on, and the exhaust back in the bike (and what a job that was! One header didn't want to seat properly, but it's all good now). Fired it up and it sounds unreal!!!!

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I've been putting off doing the forks, because it's very involved, but I got started today. Putting in the Ohlins valves was going great, until I couldn't find one key shim I needed.....

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I give up for today....

Baddie
01-03-2014, 09:16 PM
Jesus I hope you wake up and remember where it all goes back :)

Phat3R
02-03-2014, 10:48 PM
Jesus, glad I'm not rebuilding that !!!

Looks good Nick, I am all booked, flights and TD's for Easter. Foots getting better, can almost walk.

Marshy
02-03-2014, 10:59 PM
I am all booked, flights and TD's for Easter. Foots getting better, can almost walk.
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Marshy
23-03-2014, 04:41 PM
Soooooo, after an extended delay while I ordered more shims (and put off getting back into it - I was distracted by my Italian mistress), the forks are done!! And back in the bike. Whilst they were out and the access was good, I added braided lines, in a rather fetching red colour.

I've done some sneaky internal mods to the forks to give it more working travel, and some tricky valving tweaks. They feel simply unreal bouncing them on the floor. Heaps better than the similar ones in the 2010.

The right side clip-on is on (and drilled for the throttle and switchblock locating nipples). It's almost ready for some new clothes!

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Phat3R
23-03-2014, 09:36 PM
Ohhhh bike porn .... Marshy you are a miracle worker. :)

Marshy
24-03-2014, 07:26 AM
Honestly, I just can't stress enough how good the forks feel!! I'm super-super impressed (if I do say so myself, although I'm not praising my own work, but rather the Ohlins valves and the new shims, and the combo of spring/valve/stack that just works).

Stu23
24-03-2014, 07:39 AM
Must say I do love my Ohlins Forks and WSS Compression Valves that Zeno found for me and tweaked to latest spec ;) 25mm still but do feel awesome.... Just working on the rear settings but they will come now James has fixed the little problem i was having ( leaky seal ).. Be good to see you on the track with this bike Phat3r just hope your not tooooo quick eek

chubb
24-03-2014, 10:42 AM
A working front end makes all the difference.

Phat3R
24-03-2014, 11:03 AM
Must say I do love my Ohlins Forks and WSS Compression Valves that Zeno found for me and tweaked to latest spec ;) 25mm still but do feel awesome.... Just working on the rear settings but they will come now James has fixed the little problem i was having ( leaky seal ).. Be good to see you on the track with this bike Phat3r just hope your not tooooo quick eek

Riding the CBR600RR at Barbagello last week has made me realise just how underpowered my Gixxa has been, (but also how good the suspension was after Marshy refreshed it).

I suspect I'll have to totally rework all my braking markers ... just going around all gentle like for two days getting a handle on all that powa ...

dan
24-03-2014, 01:09 PM
Riding the CBR600RR at Barbagello last week has made me realise just how underpowered my Gixxa has been, (but also how good the suspension was after Marshy refreshed it).

I suspect I'll have to totally rework all my braking markers ... just going around all gentle like for two days getting a handle on all that powa ...

What's a braking marker?

Stu23
24-03-2014, 01:13 PM
lol

Phat3R
24-03-2014, 03:03 PM
What's a braking marker?

:faint2: Somewhere before you hit the anchors Dan! :crazy:

BoB
24-03-2014, 07:48 PM
Phat3r what days are you booked in for over easter / colour groups

Phat3R
24-03-2014, 09:25 PM
Phat3r what days are you booked in for over easter / colour groups

Hi Rob,
Easter Sun (20/4) & Mon (21/4), green group both days.
What days you out?
The Phat 1 ;)

BoB
24-03-2014, 09:32 PM
Mon 21st green group ... its been way too long since i last was out there...

Marshy
24-03-2014, 10:06 PM
More done - the new brake lines are filled and bled with race fluid, and the caliper bolts are now lockwired. Front guard and tank cover are on. It's starting to look like a bike again!

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Phat3R
24-03-2014, 10:38 PM
How good does that look ... I am countin sleepz.

Phat3R
10-04-2014, 03:15 PM
Any more bike porn photo's Nick ... my return from WA at Easter is now permanent ... I has been missing hanging around SMSP really bad.

dan
10-04-2014, 03:26 PM
Awww shit. They sick of you there already?

Phat3R
10-04-2014, 03:54 PM
Yes, I have been asked to leave the state of psychotic shark killerz! :-)

dan
10-04-2014, 04:08 PM
Let me know if you want to part the with QS on your old girl ;)

Marshy
11-04-2014, 07:05 PM
Sorry for the delay, mate. Work has continued, albeit slowly! I did a bunch very early this morning. The clip-ons are properly finished now, and new Renthal race grips, and adjustable-length foldable levers, and as a little extra, some shiny lever guards (in a rather fetching black/silver).

The only thing left is to put the rest of the fairing together and onto the bike, and a bit of stickering. Half a day, tops.

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dan
11-04-2014, 07:18 PM
Can you put some really fucked gearing on it so he doesn't blast right past me PLZ

dan
11-04-2014, 07:19 PM
Only 3 spark plugs. Prob still faster than the old girls.

shippy__
12-04-2014, 07:31 AM
is that coolant i still see?

Marshy
12-04-2014, 07:39 AM
Only 3 spark plugs. Prob still faster than the old girls.

Even with 2, it'd be faster. Stop fighting inevitability.


is that coolant i still see?

That's about the only thing I haven't done. I figured if it's almost 6 months before his first race meet, it might as well stay with coolant in it for now.

dan
12-04-2014, 07:59 AM
haha r6 parallel twin

Marshy
12-04-2014, 08:26 AM
haha r6 parallel twin

Technically, that'd be a 300..... :spy:

dan
12-04-2014, 01:06 PM
Should enter a zx6rr running on two cylinders in the ninja 300 cup

chubb
12-04-2014, 05:13 PM
Should enter a zx6rr running on two cylinders in the ninja 300 cup

Ideas man

Marshy
12-04-2014, 06:10 PM
Did I mention that I finished the build this arvo??

Except for some stickers that I haven't cut out yet, it's ready to race. Pics tomorrow.

Phat3R
12-04-2014, 08:10 PM
Did I mention that I finished the build this arvo??

Except for some stickers that I haven't cut out yet, it's ready to race. Pics tomorrow.

Lookz uber sexy Nick ... 6 sleeps to go till I am back in Syderney on good Friday. I hope to be at your place with trailer by 3pm.

I'm going to be shitting bricks riding that thing the first time! That extra speed is going to take some getting use to ... it'll make the Gixxer feel like I've been riding a 300!

MEGA called & asked to move me up to red group for both days as green was full ... 11 weeks since I have ridden around there ... hope I can remember which way round it goes.

Dan you'll probably still beat me on your old gal. I had a think and I'm going to keep my old Gixxer for a while longer. Backup / rain bike and maybe my WA track bike if I end up back here this year.

Mr.Ed
12-04-2014, 09:51 PM
The speed difference won't be as big as you think... I had a go on a 01 600F4i and I was impressed at how good it was for what was supposed to be an 'old bike'. They do feel heavier but powerwise there's not THAT much in it. You'd get a bigger shock going from a 600 to a 750 from the same vintage, and even that is not much really. Older 600s also have a much more forgiving powerband which the new R6 definitely does not have... hahaha but it rewards the skillful. ;)


Having said that, make no mistake, newer models are faster. Definitely.

chubb
13-04-2014, 08:00 AM
Wade was doing 42s on the old girl

dan
13-04-2014, 08:27 AM
The pre-modern cbr?

dan
13-04-2014, 08:33 AM
The speed difference won't be as big as you think... I had a go on a 01 600F4i and I was impressed at how good it was for what was supposed to be an 'old bike'. They do feel heavier but powerwise there's not THAT much in it. You'd get a bigger shock going from a 600 to a 750 from the same vintage, and even that is not much really. Older 600s also have a much more forgiving powerband which the new R6 definitely does not have... hahaha but it rewards the skillful. ;)


Having said that, make no mistake, newer models are faster. Definitely.

I'd be surprised if my K3 600 even had 100hp. Had it dynotuned with a period PC3 and it had 102 but I took it off after i diagnosed it as what was causing a flat spot around 8500rpm.

Any newer 600 is putting out between 110-115 at the wheels right? Quite a few kilos lighter as well. When I come out of 12 and have to drag a R6 up the straight I'd lose close to 100m by the end.

Phat3R
13-04-2014, 10:13 AM
I'd be surprised if my K3 600 even had 100hp. Had it dynotuned with a period PC3 and it had 102 but I took it off after i diagnosed it as what was causing a flat spot around 8500rpm.

Any newer 600 is putting out between 110-115 at the wheels right? Quite a few kilos lighter as well. When I come out of 12 and have to drag a R6 up the straight I'd lose close to 100m by the end.

Dunno what you mean Dan? ;) (3m50s)


http://youtu.be/FOyV1DNdB1I?t=3m50s
3m50s

Phat3R
13-04-2014, 10:21 AM
The speed difference won't be as big as you think... I had a go on a 01 600F4i and I was impressed at how good it was for what was supposed to be an 'old bike'. They do feel heavier but powerwise there's not THAT much in it. You'd get a bigger shock going from a 600 to a 750 from the same vintage, and even that is not much really. Older 600s also have a much more forgiving powerband which the new R6 definitely does not have... hahaha but it rewards the skillful. ;)


Having said that, make no mistake, newer models are faster. Definitely.

Yeah totally agree re the power band ... the old K1 Gixxer 600 is like a 250. Probably how I get such good tyre wear. ;)

Mr.Ed
13-04-2014, 11:51 AM
Dunno what you mean Dan? ;) (3m50s)


http://youtu.be/FOyV1DNdB1I?t=3m50s
3m50s


If you're losing that much time on the straight I'd add a tooth on the rear sprocket if I were you... at least till you improve your speed around T12. Even 20hp wouldn't explain that big a difference I think... not if you both corner at the same speed and pick up the throttle at the same time. I lose less than that to most 1000's I think!!! A 750, which has about 20hp on the 600s, won't even pull away till we get to the stands and even then it's just a small gap. And I'm not even good at T12...

Gearing can make a HUGE difference there as seen on the video below... it happens more than once in the video but if you want to cut to the chase, go to the 9:20 mark and look at the 'power' difference to a 09 R6!! There's no way my ZX6 is that much faster. Even at the end of the first lap, you can see there's a difference there and motorbiker's bike is a K5 600 if I'm not mistaken but I can only really close the gap properly once he rolls off into T1. I was gaining on him, of course, but there was also drafting at play there.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SC94KL1PeRU

Marshy
13-04-2014, 11:56 AM
The speed difference won't be as big as you think... I had a go on a 01 600F4i and I was impressed at how good it was for what was supposed to be an 'old bike'. They do feel heavier but powerwise there's not THAT much in it. You'd get a bigger shock going from a 600 to a 750 from the same vintage, and even that is not much really. Older 600s also have a much more forgiving powerband which the new R6 definitely does not have... hahaha but it rewards the skillful. ;)


Having said that, make no mistake, newer models are faster. Definitely.


I noticed a MASSIVE difference just going from a K8 600 to an 08 R6. It was heaps more powerful and handled muuuuuch better. The biggest difference I noticed was just how quickly it revved!! I kept hitting the limiter as I wasn't used to an engine spinning up so quickly.

And yes, Phat3R, that's a massive speed difference in your vid there. Welcome to the world of UA.

Marshy
13-04-2014, 11:57 AM
If you're losing that much time on the straight I'd add a tooth on the rear sprocket if I were you...

Totally agree that gearing makes all the difference. And I was gonna say that before, but IIRC I changed the gearing on Rick's gixxer just prior to that video.... It looks like it's still geared too long though!

Mr.Ed
13-04-2014, 12:14 PM
TBH, and I mean no disrespect Rick, but it's probably geared just right and he rolled on a bit late on that video (or rolled on at the right time but too slow to WOT) ... if he keeps his speed up and the revs above 11K around T12 (that's usually my target there even though I rarely achieve it ahahaha) he won't lose half of what he lost on that video.

Ps: It's impossible to see on the video but I also get the impression he might be short shifting a bit... which, on the 600s I rode, is BIG no no. Anything below, say... 500rpm to the redline, and you're losing time.

Mr.Ed
13-04-2014, 12:24 PM
It was heaps more powerful and handled muuuuuch better. The biggest difference I noticed was just how quickly it revved!! I kept hitting the limiter as I wasn't used to an engine spinning up so quickly.

100000% agree re the handling but the power only 50% hahaha When I went from the 03 600RR to the 06 R6 I was hitting that limiter so hard I started calling my bike Rihanna... but to me, that was because the RR would NEVER rev anywhere near that fast/aggressively over 12K whereas the R6 would just have the 'turbo lag' feel and then BOOOOM! So my impression was that they made similar power but they delivered it in completely different ways and it was taking me forever to adjust.

But yeah, the handling is miles apart.

Marshy
13-04-2014, 04:54 PM
Ok, back on topic ;)

Heat shield in, then the bellypan could go on and the stickering begin.

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Marshy
13-04-2014, 05:02 PM
Doneski! Thoughts, comments etc?






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Mr.Ed
13-04-2014, 06:00 PM
No idea what Crom is but the whole thing gets my approval, it looks sexy as!

Marshy
13-04-2014, 07:27 PM
No idea what Crom is

Me neither, but he wanted it. TBH, I haven't figured the name 'Phat3R' out either....

Phat3R
13-04-2014, 08:05 PM
Nick, sitting in pub in Perth watching WSBK on TV. Got your SMS and logged in on mobile.

Fark me drunk. That is one purtty bike, i've got a grin from ear to ear. Marshy you are a master craftsman!

FYI: Crom is the god of Conan the Barbarian.

Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies,
To see them run before you,
And to hear the lamentation of their women.

May not be very PC, but then neither am I. ;)

5 more sleeps.

Baddie
13-04-2014, 09:46 PM
Mate..looks great.
Now the pressure is on for me too bling mine like that.
I think its road trip..ASAP.
Good job Nick.

Phat3R
13-04-2014, 10:16 PM
TBH, and I mean no disrespect Rick, but it's probably geared just right and he rolled on a bit late on that video (or rolled on at the right time but too slow to WOT) ... if he keeps his speed up and the revs above 11K around T12 (that's usually my target there even though I rarely achieve it ahahaha) he won't lose half of what he lost on that video.

Ps: It's impossible to see on the video but I also get the impression he might be short shifting a bit... which, on the 600s I rode, is BIG no no. Anything below, say... 500rpm to the redline, and you're losing time.

Thx Ed, some good advice in there ... :)

Marshy
13-04-2014, 10:23 PM
FYI: Crom is the god of Conan the Barbarian.

Conan, what is best in life?
To crush your enemies,
To see them run before you,
And to hear the lamentation of their women.

Coooooool!! :cool:

Leezx10r
14-04-2014, 06:43 AM
looks very nice, great build

Mr.Ed
14-04-2014, 12:10 PM
Thx Ed, some good advice in there ... :)

Ok, now this is what I always worry about... I posted my opinion and given my experience/track record that's HARDLY an advice! hahahahaha

My one and only advice would be to swap the bolts on the side of the farings for Dzus 'cause I know how much easier those are to play with. But that's it, no riding advice from me! Chances are, you're faster than me anyway.

Plus, even if you do go slow around the track, with the new farings you know you'll do in style... and in the end of the day, that's what really matters.

Phat3R
14-04-2014, 01:48 PM
Ok, now this is what I always worry about... I posted my opinion and given my experience/track record that's HARDLY an advice! hahahahaha

My one and only advice would be to swap the bolts on the side of the farings for Dzus 'cause I know how much easier those are to play with. But that's it, no riding advice from me! Chances are, you're faster than me anyway.

Plus, even if you do go slow around the track, with the new farings you know you'll do in style... and in the end of the day, that's what really matters.

All good Ed, Mate I'm so green with track bikes that I'll even take advice from a Kawapowa rider. ;-)

Seriously though, watched the vid you put up and agree the Gixxer gearing could do with some more tweaks / twerks plus I should try and rev it out more to the line. My T12 could definitely do with more work ... (lets not forget T2-T11) ... that's the fun though ... always learning! :-)

I look back at what I was doing 12 months ago and go WTF was I thinking!

Mr.Ed
14-04-2014, 02:03 PM
At least you were riding 12mths ago!!! ;)

What times were you doing there, if you don't mind me asking!?

Phat3R
14-04-2014, 04:28 PM
Ed I gotta big jinks with the timers, If they r on the bike, I bin it and break em, so I only get times during races. (Where I also bin it and break em if they are on the bike. ;-) Like the $400 one I bought off Ewen ... been 1/2 ground away.)

I iz a slow old bugga ... best on the N Crt was mid 1:12 ... from last STG meet, and GP was 1:50 something from STG meet before Xmas. Hope to beat those on the R6 ... hope to ... but if I just 'feel' fast and purrty that will also do. :-)

shippy__
14-04-2014, 04:35 PM
Now that's a pretty bike !

Marty
14-04-2014, 05:00 PM
Looks awesome rick! Should have plenty of HP on tap now

Mr.Ed
14-04-2014, 05:05 PM
Ed I gotta big jinks with the timers, If they r on the bike, I bin it and break em, so I only get times during races. (Where I also bin it and break em if they are on the bike. ;-) Like the $400 one I bought off Ewen ... been 1/2 ground away.)

I iz a slow old bugga ... best on the N Crt was mid 1:12 ... from last STG meet, and GP was 1:50 something from STG meet before Xmas. Hope to beat those on the R6 ... hope to ... but if I just 'feel' fast and purrty that will also do. :-)


Pffft... you'll smash that on the R6, don't worry. I'd say there's at least a couple of secs just on handling alone... no more 'waiting for the bike to settle' makes a lot of difference.

Marshy
14-04-2014, 05:53 PM
My one and only advice would be to swap the bolts on the side of the farings for Dzus

They are Dzus (quarter turn), just without the D-ring, which I reckon looks ugly. As an aside, I also reckon it's a complete waste of time having D-ring fasteners on the bellypan but then bolts on either side with hex head screws!! It completely defeats the purpose of having tool-less D-ring fasteners. So I figure if you need an Allen key to undo the other bolts, why not have the same size Allen key head quarter-turn Dzus fasteners? You only need to carry the one Allen key, and it's still as quick and convenient as D-ring fasteners but without the ugly flappy D-ring bits.

I've seen some people put in waaaaaay too much effort to replace the hex bolts with Dzus as well (which then really does make removing the bellypan tool-less), but I don't have that kind of time to spare.....

But hey, I'm open to being flamed on this one!

chubb
14-04-2014, 06:08 PM
Looking good mate

dan
14-04-2014, 06:46 PM
Looks fantastic!

Mr.Ed
14-04-2014, 06:49 PM
They are Dzus (quarter turn), just without the D-ring, which I reckon looks ugly. As an aside, I also reckon it's a complete waste of time having D-ring fasteners on the bellypan but then bolts on either side with hex head screws!! It completely defeats the purpose of having tool-less D-ring fasteners. So I figure if you need an Allen key to undo the other bolts, why not have the same size Allen key head quarter-turn Dzus fasteners? You only need to carry the one Allen key, and it's still as quick and convenient as D-ring fasteners but without the ugly flappy D-ring bits.

I've seen some people put in waaaaaay too much effort to replace the hex bolts with Dzus as well (which then really does make removing the bellypan tool-less), but I don't have that kind of time to spare.....

But hey, I'm open to being flamed on this one!

The farings I had on the R6 was one of those that allows you to remove the sides separately from the top farings (Racers Edge I think it was) and I freaking LOVED the Dzus. On the ZX6R it would be helpful to have them for the bellypan but I definitely see your point re the hex bolts/tool. I also would like to highlight that it was an 'advice' and as such it probably means I haven't even done it to my own bike yet but wish I did... hahahaha

Marshy
14-04-2014, 08:04 PM
LOL, I wasn't sure whether it was an 'advice' or an 'opinion' :pound: :rofl:

Mr.Ed
14-04-2014, 08:42 PM
It's a complex process... Hahaha

Phat3R
14-04-2014, 10:02 PM
So ...

dis ... http://www.gbracing.eu/YZF-R6-RACE-KIT-Engine-Cover-Set-2008---2014.374.html

or

dis .... http://www.woodcraft-cfm.com/cgi-bin/commerce.cgi?preadd=action&key=60-0449RB

Baddie
15-04-2014, 02:29 AM
GB racing hands down:peace:

Marshy
15-04-2014, 08:33 AM
Yeah, GB. But NOT the KIT one!! You need the Stock one.

Call me, cos I have a lead on a cheap set....

Mr.Ed
15-04-2014, 12:45 PM
Just 'cause I crash a lot, woodcraft!!! And this is just an opinion although it's based on my experience with both covers... And crashes. :(

shippy__
15-04-2014, 03:14 PM
Yeah, GB. But NOT the KIT one!! You need the Stock one.

Call me, cos I have a lead on a cheap set....

you cant tell half a story wats the diff ?

Phat3R
15-04-2014, 03:40 PM
There is a photo there of the stock and kit covers ... [I didn't know there was a diff either]

http://www.gbracing.eu/info/Products.23.html


Not only do we manufacture Secondary Engine Covers for the Stock covers, we also manufacture some Secondary Engine Covers for the factory Kit covers, normally used on Superbikes.

Saturnalian
15-04-2014, 03:56 PM
The GB racing kit cover is for bikes that run the full YEC Supersport kit including the sometimes $4.5k YEC stator

Marshy
15-04-2014, 03:58 PM
you cant tell half a story wats the diff ?

The YEC kit stuff for the R6 includes a (much) smaller alternator and a stator cover that is substantially cut away to give more lean-angle ground clearance. You then need an angled GB cover to take advantage of the extra clearance.

Personally I've never come close to touching down the stator cover, so it seems a bit unnecessary to me.... But maybe I'm just not fast enough!!

Mr.Ed
15-04-2014, 04:29 PM
Prob for guys running 16.5 wheels and 420 tires... Kawa has a different/smaller cover for KIT stator as well. Not cheap I tell youse.

Lets Torque
15-04-2014, 04:42 PM
Hi Rob,
Easter Sun (20/4) & Mon (21/4), green group both days.
What days you out?
The Phat 1 ;)

See you out there Rick... working on the Sunday :)

Lets Torque
15-04-2014, 04:46 PM
ps Love the build Nick, good work old boy

Phat3R
15-04-2014, 05:00 PM
See you out there Rick... working on the Sunday :)
Sweet Bretto ... been a while mate.

Lets Torque
15-04-2014, 05:06 PM
Sweet Bretto ... been a while mate.

amen to that brother :)

Saturnalian
15-04-2014, 08:18 PM
See you out there Rick... working on the Sunday :)

Do you work Bretto.


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