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Marshy
22-02-2014, 12:03 AM
Here's a teaser. Who can identify what it is? And no, it's not an R6!! It's something different for a change....

http://tarmactalk.com/images/teaser1.jpg

Mr.Ed
22-02-2014, 12:29 AM
that looks like a 600rr swingarm to me...

Baddie
22-02-2014, 12:46 AM
Rsv4..:rofl:

Marshy
22-02-2014, 08:28 AM
Dammit, I was gonna give another clue....

http://tarmactalk.com/images/teaser2.jpg

Marshy
22-02-2014, 08:33 AM
But Baddie got it.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-1.jpg

Slow bro
22-02-2014, 08:43 AM
That didn't take you long since we last spoke about this. Well done.

Marty
22-02-2014, 09:03 AM
Wow! I love these machines, keep us posted.

So you gonna join the BEARS?

KANGA
22-02-2014, 09:30 AM
shietttt that's my dream liter bike! That V4 is just pure eargasm. What year Marshy?

Marshy
22-02-2014, 10:33 AM
shietttt that's my dream liter bike!

Mine too. I've wanted one for a while now. It's a 2012, R model with APRC. It sounds fricken unreal!!

chubb
22-02-2014, 10:34 AM
Very nice!! Love the sound of the V4!

Baddie
22-02-2014, 12:26 PM
Love love love Aprilia...looks like it has full Aka system.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/APRILIA-RSV1000R-RSV-1000-R-2009-Ohlins-Front-Forks-Suspension-Tubes-/271195407206?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f24818366&vxp=mtr

TTX rear in it?

White tank racing colours

542

Saturnalian
22-02-2014, 12:47 PM
And i only got one of these.....

Baby steps Jamie, baby steps....

545

Marshy
22-02-2014, 04:42 PM
I wondered if that was you bidding on that one, Jamie. Nice pickup.


And i only got one of these.....

Baby steps Jamie, baby steps....

545

Marshy
22-02-2014, 04:49 PM
Love love love Aprilia...looks like it has full Aka system.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/APRILIA-RSV1000R-RSV-1000-R-2009-Ohlins-Front-Forks-Suspension-Tubes-/271195407206?pt=Motorcycles_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3f24818366&vxp=mtr

TTX rear in it?

White tank racing colours

542

I think it's just an Akra end can, but I don't know them well enough to tell. It's still got the flapper, so I reckon that part is stock. I will investigate further.

Sachs suspension all around. Forks, rear shock and steering damper. The Factory model has Ohlins all round, but considering the fact that much of the Ohlins stuff that is OEM fitment is rubbish (675R, Kawi steering dampers, etc), plus the fact that I reckon almost all the latest Ohlins aftermarket stuff is rubbish too, I was actually happy to rock the Sachs stuff!

The fairing is already in production, and it is like the one you linked, but without the Alitalia and the green. Tank cover is coming with it, so that will be colour matched.

Can't wait to ride it!!! :thumb:

Mr.Ed
22-02-2014, 06:45 PM
I thought the 675R was the only 'good' factory ohlins... the Ducati ones are supposed to be rubbish too. And the Kawi dampers are useless.

Marshy
22-02-2014, 10:05 PM
Spilly hated the Panigale after the R6 at the Creek the other day. We'd just spent forever fitting race glass, and after the weekend at the track, it's going back on the road. I'm sure once they are sorted, they are a good thing.

I haven't ridden the 675R, but Cos rode one for a day at Wakefield to prepare for the 8 hour, and said it was underwhelming/nothing special. Again, probably a very good thing once sorted, but how much effort is involved?

Phat3R
23-02-2014, 12:48 AM
Spilly hated the Panigale after the R6 at the Creek the other day.

No way!!!! The real Steve Spilly must have been abducted by aliens ... :)

Mr.Ed
23-02-2014, 01:41 AM
Spilly hated the Panigale after the R6 at the Creek the other day. We'd just spent forever fitting race glass, and after the weekend at the track, it's going back on the road. I'm sure once they are sorted, they are a good thing.

I haven't ridden the 675R, but Cos rode one for a day at Wakefield to prepare for the 8 hour, and said it was underwhelming/nothing special. Again, probably a very good thing once sorted, but how much effort is involved?

Nah, I meant just the Ohlins bits... by all accounts the 675 is supposed to be a bitch to setup properly and even then it's underpowered against a well sorted jap 600.

Saturnalian
23-02-2014, 11:36 AM
I wondered if that was you bidding on that one, Jamie. Nice pickup.

How far did you push ?!🙈🙉🙊


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Marshy
23-02-2014, 07:53 PM
How far did you push ?!

Not as far as you.....

tempest
23-02-2014, 08:12 PM
N
675..... it's underpowered against a well sorted jap 600.

Not entirely correct there ed

http://www.computime.com.au/meetings/2014/WSBK/SBK14_R04_RES.HTML

Saturnalian
23-02-2014, 08:20 PM
Not as far as you.....

😳that's funny. I did consider calling you during the week about that very thing but work got in the way.
I only just remembered to bid on it as I was driving to the airport.


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Tristan
24-02-2014, 08:42 AM
I can get you pretty bits for it nick lol


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Spilly209
24-02-2014, 03:05 PM
I thought the 675R was the only 'good' factory ohlins... the Ducati ones are supposed to be rubbish too. And the Kawi dampers are useless.

Confirming the Ohlins on the Pani are indeed rubbish. But hey, you can adjust them electronically - how cooooool?!?!


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Marshy
25-02-2014, 11:50 PM
So I thought there was a problem with the APRC, because the light was on solidly and you couldn't go into the settings menu for all the APRC functions.....

After a couple of days of tinkering, I finally decided that enough was enough, and I checked the user manual online. (Yes I know, when in doubt, RTFM). Turns out it was just switched off! I switched it back on, set it into Track mode, and mucked around with the wheelie control settings, the launch control and the traction control. Far out, I'm hanging to ride it!

First outing will be on the 4th (assuming I can get someone to pick up son #3 from school). I'm locked and loaded for the track day, so maybe he could find his own way home??

chubb
25-02-2014, 11:52 PM
Watch out Chris perini???

Marshy
26-02-2014, 12:04 AM
He'll have 30 hp on me, and 30kgs less, but yeah I'm gunning for him!!! ;)

chrispy09
26-02-2014, 07:12 PM
Haha marshy Read the farking manual, love it!!

Yep watch out indeed Chris Perini. I hear The Aprilia is cheating, bit like riding an R6. Can't wait mate!
And don't worry about race situations the Aprilia lets you start with both eyes closed basically. So just be sure when you're dialing in those wheelie control settings on launch control that you hang it an extra 30 degrees in the air for extra sickness!

Us poor ducati riders have to do it by feel.


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Marshy
26-02-2014, 07:21 PM
Us poor ducati riders have to do it by feel.

HA!! That's gold!! :pound: :rofl:

It might be cheating, Mr Perini, but it still won't have 178 at the rear wheel like your thing!!! ;)

Marshy
24-03-2014, 11:15 PM
So I've kinda been waiting on stuff to arrive to progress the Ape build. Finally a bit of bike porn arrived today (with more expected this week).

http://tarmactalk.com/images/ape-1.jpg











I'm a big fan (so far) of the Sachs shock that comes standard on my bike, but I couldn't resist a bit of Ohlins old-school non-TTX goodness (from a different model Ape) that came my way for a bargain price.


http://tarmactalk.com/images/ape-2.jpg









And I haven't been totally sitting idly by. I've made my Marshy Special Progressive Quick Throttle(tm). And I'm not actually showing you the bit that makes it really special for fly-by-wire bikes like the Ape and the R6.....

http://tarmactalk.com/images/ape-3.jpg

Phat3R
25-03-2014, 12:05 AM
Very sexi Mr Marsh ;)
That Italian is getting a lot of attention!

Marshy
25-03-2014, 07:12 AM
I'm in lust..... :music: :humble: :preggers:

chubb
25-03-2014, 07:14 AM
Can't wait to see it when your new fairings turn up

Mr.Ed
26-03-2014, 11:33 AM
I'm assuming you'll need a spare set of wheels, hey?! :heh:

http://www.gumtree.com.au/s-ad/north-maclean/parts/carrozzeria-rsv4-aprilla-wheels/1041980775

Marshy
26-03-2014, 11:53 AM
Thanks Ed, I just bought them ;)

Marshy
26-03-2014, 01:02 PM
I didn't see them until you posted that link, so thanks for that Ed!! Now I just need to find discs and wheel speed sensors.....

Baddie
26-03-2014, 01:10 PM
Nice....

And a pretty red colour..:love:

shippy__
26-03-2014, 01:17 PM
Marshey needs to do a diy quick turn throttle thread

chubb
26-03-2014, 01:35 PM
Marshey needs to do a diy quick turn throttle thread

PVC tube.

Heaps on the R6 forums about a how to

Mr.Ed
26-03-2014, 03:30 PM
Happy to help! Carrozzeria claims the Tri R's design rivals forged mag for weight savings. If that's the case, you'll have a good time.

Ps: Remember that those wheels run Kawasaki sprockets so you might need to get some too!

Marshy
26-03-2014, 05:10 PM
Yep, thanks mate! Just ordering some discs and speed sensors to go with them. Exxy exercise.....

Now to call MCAS for some kwaka rear sprockets!

Mr.Ed
26-03-2014, 05:35 PM
I'd go with the aluminium ones... I weighed my stock 43T vs the aftermarket 45T (Renthal, I think) and the difference was ridiculous. The aftermarket actually weighs less than half!!!

Marshy
26-03-2014, 10:57 PM
Yep, always do. They don't last too long on a litre bike, but ;)

Baddie
27-03-2014, 01:45 AM
Yep, thanks mate! Just ordering some discs and speed sensors to go with them. Exxy exercise.....

Now to call MCAS for some kwaka rear sprockets!

" Kawa sprockets for the 300cc" Im assuming.

Marshy
27-03-2014, 06:22 AM
For the new Ape Carrozerria wheels. They take a ZX6/ZX10R rear sprocket.

That 300 will be the death of me! I just simply CBF building it..... The race glass is sitting here, ready to go, but I have zero motivation to fit it. :frusty:

Marshy
31-03-2014, 07:55 AM
And I haven't been totally sitting idly by. I've made my Marshy Special Progressive Quick Throttle(tm). And I'm not actually showing you the bit that makes it really special for fly-by-wire bikes like the Ape and the R6.....

So here's the special bit..... I remove material from the start of the action, to actually make the throttle turn slower than stock for the 0-10% throttle. This helps take out some of the snatchiness when you go from a closed throttle to open. On the R6 and Ape etc, the ride by wire is just too jerky on that first 5 to 10% throttle.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/quickthrottle.jpg

Marshy
31-03-2014, 07:57 AM
Rebuilt the Sachs steering damper with heavier oil. It now has proper resistance! It was waaay too light before.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-7.jpg

shippy__
31-03-2014, 07:58 AM
Lol I actually modified mine on the weekend and did the same thing

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Marshy
31-03-2014, 07:59 AM
Fitted some K&N goodness (and check out the throttle bodies!).

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-5.jpg










And how MotoGP do I feel now!!! Check out the make of ECU.... Of course I'm running the Open class version :rofl: :pound:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-4.jpg

Marshy
31-03-2014, 08:01 AM
The Italian mistress has some new clothes! Just need to sticker her up. Oh, and it doesn't come across in the photos, but that's actually fluoro red, and looks unreal in the flesh!!

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-6.jpg

chubb
31-03-2014, 08:58 AM
nice to see a proper belly pan now :peace:

James_
31-03-2014, 09:29 AM
Looks Great!!!

Marshy
31-03-2014, 09:39 AM
Busy cutting stickers last night. Will sticker it up tonight and take some more pics :thumb:

Stu23
31-03-2014, 09:57 AM
Now that does look good :)

dan
31-03-2014, 12:07 PM
Fairings look fantastic in the flesh. Jaw dropping. Such a babe.

Mr.Ed
31-03-2014, 12:53 PM
The bike looks AWESOME!!!!!!


But that ECU is made in Brazil... I'm not too sure I'd risk my life on it. hahahhaha

KANGA
31-03-2014, 01:00 PM
http://catmacros.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/its_beautiful.jpg
So jealous!

Marshy
31-03-2014, 01:01 PM
But that ECU is made in Brazil... I'm not too sure I'd risk my life on it. hahahhaha

http://s3.amazonaws.com/rapgenius/Homer-Simpson-Doh.jpg



Sooooooo, you're suggesting it's NOT the same as the MotoGP ones?? ;)

Mr.Ed
31-03-2014, 01:37 PM
Of course they are! That's why the factories don't want it! hahaha

Marshy
31-03-2014, 01:58 PM
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAA!!!!!!!!

Touche.

chubb
31-03-2014, 07:09 PM
Can't wait to see it with stickers

Mr.Ed
31-03-2014, 07:21 PM
And the Carrozzerias!! The red wheels will just blow everything else out of the water...

Marshy
31-03-2014, 11:32 PM
Some stickers done.... more still to do. A sneak peek:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-8.jpg






Also did some stickers on Chris's Pani:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/perini.jpg

Spilly209
31-03-2014, 11:34 PM
Looking good! Anything black needs to be replaced with carbon stat though! I know a guy who knows a guy....


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Marshy
01-04-2014, 12:56 PM
Looking good! Anything black needs to be replaced with carbon stat though! I know a guy who knows a guy....


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I don't have any black on my bikes ;)

Mr.Ed
01-04-2014, 01:34 PM
I don't have any black on my bikes ;)

Like this? (http://www.kentbicycles.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/prod_lg/bikes_pinkalicious%20bikes_11635-16IN%20pinkalicious.jpg_0.jpg)

Negrogrande
01-04-2014, 03:32 PM
I would legit get my fairings painted that way if I had my time again :)

I prefer powerpuff girls though

Marshy
01-04-2014, 05:24 PM
It's strikingly similar actually Ed! Just substitute fluoro pink for the non-fluoro of your bike there, and they are same same :thumb:

Mr.Ed
01-04-2014, 05:37 PM
Now that's a classy gal

Marshy
01-04-2014, 10:10 PM
More stickering done (when will it ever end?!?!?!?).

Another peek:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/rsv4-9.jpg

Marshy
03-04-2014, 01:02 PM
Ok, finished!!

http://tarmactalk.com/images/aprilia-1.jpg


http://tarmactalk.com/images/aprilia-2.jpg


http://tarmactalk.com/images/aprilia-3.jpg


http://tarmactalk.com/images/aprilia-4.jpg


http://tarmactalk.com/images/aprilia-5.jpg

Spilly209
03-04-2014, 01:04 PM
Looks awesome! The new SS logos on the side fairings look great!


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Mr.Ed
03-04-2014, 01:35 PM
A had a mate with me when I saw the latest pictures and even though we were both in awe with the final result he pointed out he couldn't read your name on the sticker on the screen... I pointed out he's Irish and therefore English is not his forte.

Spilly209
03-04-2014, 01:46 PM
Actually the gap above the racing number at the front is begging for a sticker


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Baddie
03-04-2014, 01:48 PM
:love::love::love:

Mr.Ed
03-04-2014, 02:41 PM
Actually the gap above the racing number at the front is begging for a sticker


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Good point... also, it's time Superbike Source Racing got its logo!!

I suggest something along these lines but obviously replacing the slingshot for superbike source

http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2783/4076261935_9019c84657.jpg

Spilly209
03-04-2014, 02:43 PM
Yea that looks good. There's sites where you can post your logo request and people design them then you pay the winning designer $10 or something. A lot in India or Thailand!


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Krackeye
04-04-2014, 08:18 AM
Looks sick!
What's with the 13 tho.

Marty
04-04-2014, 08:44 AM
Looks sick!
What's with the 13 tho.

Every APE owner has to work the Biaggi no. 3 onto their bike or gear somehow :D

chubb
04-04-2014, 09:00 AM
bhahahahahah :pound:

Negrogrande
04-04-2014, 01:05 PM
for logo's I use http://www.freelancer.com/ a lot (and I work in a creative/media agency) my second logo (the one on my photos and not my avatar) was $35 and comes in EPS (can scale infinitely) and png (no background colour)

shippy__
04-04-2014, 04:12 PM
How did that gear lever stroke work out ?, I notice its been drilled and moved

Marshy
05-04-2014, 09:33 PM
Farkin great, shippy!! The only negative is that it's now extremely difficult to get neutral.....
In hindsight, the much shorter throw of the woodcraft rearsets PLUS the other mod is a teeny bit too much. It's soooooo easy to shift gears but!


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Marty
28-04-2014, 07:08 PM
So here's the special bit..... I remove material from the start of the action, to actually make the throttle turn slower than stock for the 0-10% throttle. This helps take out some of the snatchiness when you go from a closed throttle to open. On the R6 and Ape etc, the ride by wire is just too jerky on that first 5 to 10% throttle.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/quickthrottle.jpg

Hey nick, with this secret squirrel mod do you need to do the same to the return side? I've got a really short throttle (progressive 53 degrees) which is fantastic but the pickup is too jerky for my liking so I've done this mod, I took it out 3-4 times and took more and more meat off each time but it doesn't feel like it's done much. I'm happy to take more off but it dawned on me that maybe I need to match it on the other side.

Marshy
28-04-2014, 08:47 PM
Hey nick, with this secret squirrel mod do you need to do the same to the return side? I've got a really short throttle (progressive 53 degrees) which is fantastic but the pickup is too jerky for my liking so I've done this mod, I took it out 3-4 times and took more and more meat off each time but it doesn't feel like it's done much. I'm happy to take more off but it dawned on me that maybe I need to match it on the other side.

I've only done it on the 'on' side. The return should be essentially slack on opening throttle. Maybe check there's enough freeplay on the return side? The overall diameter increase in the cam might be using up all the freeplay, in which case you'd need to either loosen it down at the throttle body end (the return cable isn't usually adjustable at the bars) or yeah, do the mod on both sides.

Let me know! I'd ideally like to take more out of the initial opening too, so I'm keen to improve the mod. :thumb:

Nelso
28-04-2014, 09:03 PM
Holy shit, that has come up nice. Well done mate.:high5:

Marty
29-04-2014, 08:15 AM
I've only done it on the 'on' side. The return should be essentially slack on opening throttle. Maybe check there's enough freeplay on the return side? The overall diameter increase in the cam might be using up all the freeplay, in which case you'd need to either loosen it down at the throttle body end (the return cable isn't usually adjustable at the bars) or yeah, do the mod on both sides.

Let me know! I'd ideally like to take more out of the initial opening too, so I'm keen to improve the mod. :thumb:

Thanks Nick I'll add some free play to the return side and see how it goes, I got aftermarket cables to I can do it. If I don't like the free play then I'll grove out the other side. I'll definitely ride it before I take off any more meat coz I'd hate to go too far

zoidberg
29-04-2014, 11:36 AM
Wow, that looks awesome! I love the RSV4.