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shippy__
09-01-2014, 06:00 AM
26th full circuit. ... im in

chubb
09-01-2014, 06:19 AM
In

CLIFFY
09-01-2014, 07:11 AM
Yep

Saturnalian
09-01-2014, 07:24 AM
27th, anyone ?!

KANGA
09-01-2014, 08:04 AM
I'm in on the 25th, trying to save some coin to turn it in to a triple header and do the 26th as well though a triple header may be a bit much. Need to sort out this tyre debacle first :(

mercho
09-01-2014, 08:15 AM
27th, anyone ?!

Im looking at booking in for the 27th. Just need to sort a few things out. Heading down on Sunday morning for the big day out, so just need to find some accommodation that I can have the bike and trailer securely parked at..

shippy__
09-01-2014, 08:44 AM
Im looking at booking in for the 27th. Just need to sort a few things out. Heading down on Sunday morning for the big day out, so just need to find some accommodation that I can have the bike and trailer securely parked at..
if you drop it at the track I can lock it up in a shed for you at the end of the day

mercho
09-01-2014, 08:51 AM
That might be an option, i usually do that for st george but wast sure whether they allow overnight stays at TD's.. Are you doing the 27th as well Shippy? Do they allow trailers do have a sleep over as well? lol (Just out in the carpark)

shippy__
09-01-2014, 08:53 AM
no im not doing the 27th.... last track day I left my bike and trailer there over night others did also

mercho
09-01-2014, 08:54 AM
Ok cool, ill see how i go when it gets a bit closer

Rusty
09-01-2014, 09:07 AM
You can leave your bike and trailer at the track overnight at Track Days. Just go see registration and let them know what garage to make sure it's not one that they have booked out to a group the next day. You will also need to sign an indemnity.

CLIFFY
09-01-2014, 09:49 AM
25th too

shippy__
09-01-2014, 11:12 AM
have requested garages 37/36 pretty sure thats the one with the fridge

dan
09-01-2014, 12:34 PM
I'm there on the 27th unless I have to work.

Carl-52
09-01-2014, 07:54 PM
Flagging at EC on the 25th, riding the 26th!! :)

Marshy
10-01-2014, 07:09 PM
Ok, so I'm making a return to the track on either the 26th or 27th, but I can't decide which!! Which day has the most TT members going? Garage, anyone? Shippy, who did you book for?

chubb
10-01-2014, 07:14 PM
26th marshy

All the cool kids are doing that date

Marshy
10-01-2014, 07:19 PM
All the cool kids are doing that date

Well that seals the deal right there!! But you have to pit with us, Rick, or at least next door, if you guys want more room. It'd be nice to have Wetty nearby too. I haven't actually seen him since the hospital, so it'd be good to catch up.

chubb
10-01-2014, 07:24 PM
I believe the pommy bloke is coming out to play with his kid.

shippy__
10-01-2014, 07:51 PM
I booked for tarmac talk you blokes better join me iv been doing a few td's and have alwaysed missed meeting up


what shed do you prefer i will change it....all the cool kids with r6's

Marshy
10-01-2014, 08:19 PM
I booked for tarmac talk you blokes better join me iv been doing a few td's and have alwaysed missed meeting up


what shed do you prefer i will change it....all the cool kids with r6's

No no, that's the one we always use!! Lock it in, Eddie!!

http://www.boostcruising.com/database/readersphotos/files/57ING20050224135616funnyfile1.jpg

dan
10-01-2014, 08:22 PM
Owen and I are there on the 27th.

Marshy
10-01-2014, 08:25 PM
I think so is Steve. Dammit, don't tell me I have to do both days......... :frusty:

dan
10-01-2014, 08:42 PM
I'm going to bring my RD out and do a session on that as well. Should be fun.

senator8
10-01-2014, 09:36 PM
Well that seals the deal right there!! But you have to pit with us, Rick, or at least next door, if you guys want more room. It'd be nice to have Wetty nearby too. I haven't actually seen him since the hospital, so it'd be good to catch up.

Were you talking to me the good looking Rick, or the other one who wears my gloves?

Marshy
11-01-2014, 05:44 AM
Were you talking to me the good looking Rick, or the other one who wears my gloves?

Well, dagnabbit, you're both good looking!! So that's no way to differentiate. And you've both got old suzukis..... hey, is there something you're not telling us, you two?!?!? Twins separated at birth, maybe?

For some inexplicable reason, I read chubb's post and thought it was from you, senator8!! No idea why. Normally I'd blame alcohol, but I haven't had a drop in 2 years. Must've been tired.

Nelso
11-01-2014, 08:08 AM
I'm going to bring my RD out and do a session on that as well. Should be fun.

I'm hoping to have my RD finished in time to give it a run that weekend too. Probably won't be until Sunday afternoon or Monday though.

dan
11-01-2014, 08:14 AM
I'm hoping to have my RD finished in time to give it a run that weekend too. Probably won't be until Sunday afternoon or Monday though.

Awesome, keen to see it. Was yours an LC? Mine is my daily rider 74 model so will just be cruising.

Phat3R
11-01-2014, 01:02 PM
Well, dagnabbit, you're both good looking!! So that's no way to differentiate. And you've both got old suzukis..... hey, is there something you're not telling us, you two?!?!? Twins separated at birth, maybe?
For some inexplicable reason, I read chubb's post and thought it was from you, senator8!! No idea why. Normally I'd blame alcohol, but I haven't had a drop in 2 years. Must've been tired.

LOL ... I am seeing double right now ... just woke up after got home at 4am ... somehow ... :sick:. Let me know which is best date to book for shake down ... ??? Must fly the porcelain bus is coming.

dan
11-01-2014, 01:31 PM
Dangerously close to too much information there.

Marshy
11-01-2014, 05:29 PM
So it was a good farewell drinks then, Rick B?

fitzy
11-01-2014, 07:32 PM
think i will also book in for the sunday .. trackday and then a bbq beers session sounds good to me :)

Marshy
11-01-2014, 08:10 PM
I'm more and more looking like doing both Sun and Mon. Sat is out for me.

Phat3R
11-01-2014, 08:26 PM
So it was a good farewell drinks then, Rick B?

It was ... I think ... I'm never drinking again ... :pout:

johnnyb
11-01-2014, 09:17 PM
I'm in...see you then.




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Marshy
11-01-2014, 11:10 PM
:thumb: :peace: :rockon:

Phat3R
12-01-2014, 07:34 AM
Booked the 26th ... Will consider the 27th too ... With improved suspension, QS, chain, sprockets, and some other go fast bits I might never want to stop. ;-)

Saturnalian
12-01-2014, 02:35 PM
26th marshy

All the cool kids are doing that date

Not all of them Chubb...!!

Nelso
12-01-2014, 08:06 PM
Awesome, keen to see it. Was yours an LC? Mine is my daily rider 74 model so will just be cruising.

Yeah, it's an RD350LC. Hopefully I will be running it in and sorting the suspension so that it's ready for the first round of PCRA.

DisPlaCeD
17-01-2014, 09:05 AM
I'm in on the 25th... testing out the new suspension! WOO!... Hopefully one day is enough for a ridable solution. :)

chubb
17-01-2014, 10:29 AM
what new suspenders did you get?

DisPlaCeD
17-01-2014, 10:48 AM
Just racetech respring and revalved. Ohlins rear spring too. I believe that it should be suitable for FX600/ASBK 600... but I'm still running a Q/S and no control tyres... and I'm slow. So, yeah... lol

chubb
17-01-2014, 10:58 AM
Nice should go much betterer now!

DisPlaCeD
17-01-2014, 11:13 AM
Nice should go much betterer now!

Yeah, fingers crossed. Previous PBs were achieved with only one fork working as the piston seal was damaged!! So they said it should feel alot better now! haha

shippy__
20-01-2014, 09:18 AM
will madaz have a decent size air compressor to get my sprocket nut off ?

Marshy
20-01-2014, 09:31 AM
will madaz have a decent size air compressor to get my sprocket nut off ?

It's not the size of the compressor (that was a $1k lesson for me!), it's the torque the gun can deliver. Electric rattle guns have way more torque, and are soooo much better at front sprocket removal. I bought one of these a few months ago, and while I usually still use the air rattle for most work (this is a little too powerful), this is the tits for sprocket removal! It's also very portable, and it's always in my trailer (I can't quite believe I used to carry a compressor and air rattle gun everywhere in my trailer)...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-UNIMAC-240v-1-2-Electric-Impact-Wrench-Rattle-Gun-Driver-Torque-Tools-Air-/160857702147?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2573ddbf03

Marshy
20-01-2014, 09:40 AM
Oh, and Madaz use the Creek's air supply - I haven't quite worked out where the compressors are, but they must be huge - that supplies all the garages, and is the main air supply for the V8s etc when they are racing there. Each garage has an outlet - if you brought a hose and air tools, you could plug in while in the pits.

shippy__
20-01-2014, 11:39 AM
you at the track sunday ?

Marshy
20-01-2014, 11:56 AM
Nope. Monday I am.

mercho
22-01-2014, 08:05 AM
I'm out unfortunately, my car just sold so i don't have any towing rig until I grab a new one! Will see most of you at the 1st round of St George though!!

phillmac
23-01-2014, 01:06 PM
Wish I didn't see that link. The gauge in the pick reads 350NM. Do you think it may have a hope of cracking loose my 1198 wheel nuts, 180 and 220nm. For the easy one I use 2 people, the gearbox or timber in wheel and a 6 foot pipe on breaker bar, rear brake and a few swear words before it comes off.
It's not the size of the compressor (that was a $1k lesson for me!), it's the torque the gun can deliver. Electric rattle guns have way more torque, and are soooo much better at front sprocket removal. I bought one of these a few months ago, and while I usually still use the air rattle for most work (this is a little too powerful), this is the tits for sprocket removal! It's also very portable, and it's always in my trailer (I can't quite believe I used to carry a compressor and air rattle gun everywhere in my trailer)...

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/NEW-UNIMAC-240v-1-2-Electric-Impact-Wrench-Rattle-Gun-Driver-Torque-Tools-Air-/160857702147?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item2573ddbf03

Marshy
23-01-2014, 03:21 PM
Wish I didn't see that link. The gauge in the pick reads 350NM. Do you think it may have a hope of cracking loose my 1198 wheel nuts, 180 and 220nm. For the easy one I use 2 people, the gearbox or timber in wheel and a 6 foot pipe on breaker bar, rear brake and a few swear words before it comes off.

Yeah, it has adjustable torque.... from 150NM (MINIMUM!) to 350NM, then there's an 'infinity' setting past 350. It could speed up the Earth's rotation, if only there was a convenient half-inch socket to attach to!

phillmac
23-01-2014, 05:11 PM
Yeah, it has adjustable torque.... from 150NM (MINIMUM!) to 350NM, then there's an 'infinity' setting past 350. It could speed up the Earth's rotation, if only there was a convenient half-inch socket to attach to!

I spose I'll justify it when the apes over tighten my car wheel nuts and the 1/2" air gun has no hope. They say you can never have too many tools.

shippy__
23-01-2014, 06:31 PM
weather is shaping up nicely

16/24
5% chance of 1mm
very light wind

chubb
26-01-2014, 04:17 PM
Saw the usual faces today. MStevo, Stu23 and Carl-52. Had fun with Mick J during the last session.
Wasn't too bad conditions today.

Was out today just working on lines corner speed and being smooth. Rear was completely shot.

Some really fast guys out there like Goldie, Aaron Morris, Condon and Alex Cudlin was out there too. Only see them for one corner and then they're gone!!

Bring on next week!

Phat3R
26-01-2014, 05:23 PM
There was a reserved TT garage today ... was very quiet in there ... I spoke with Rich and he said he would leave up the reserved garage signs for Mon as well. Garages 31 & 32 - I left my bike and gear locked in there too.

dan
26-01-2014, 05:32 PM
See you there tomorrow. I'm so pumped.

dan
26-01-2014, 07:32 PM
How'd the bike feel with all the new suspension bits Rick?

Marshy
26-01-2014, 08:21 PM
There was a reserved TT garage today ... was very quiet in there ... I spoke with Rich and he said he would leave up the reserved garage signs for Mon as well. Garages 31 & 32 - I left my bike and gear locked in there too.

Cool, so we know where to head to. Although my idea with TT was always (and still is) to not have a 'reserved' sign at all, but rather have an 'all welcome' sign and some flyers. We mostly all met by randomly sharing a garage at a track day or race meet, and by excluding people that aren't already members, we will not grow and meet new friends.

We all know where to meet now, so lets rip the signs down first thing tomorrow :thumb:

Phat3R
26-01-2014, 08:56 PM
We invited several guys in when they asked, only other TT regular was John B. Gee those s1000's chew tyres John ;)

Phat3R
26-01-2014, 09:02 PM
How'd the bike feel with all the new suspension bits Rick?

Awesome Nick, it is like a totally different bike! The suspension means T1 is not as hairy as it use to be on just preload, under brakes dive to stops has gone, good turn in, can put bike where I want it pretty consistent. The QS is cheating, Dan is going to have to get one, just makes it insanely easy to ride. Good drive with new sprockets and chain, and the UK Ntecs are like shit to a blanket, front never pushed once. I will be very surprised if I don't set some significantly better PB's next week.

dan
26-01-2014, 11:17 PM
I'm might copy your fork settings tomorrow to get a base line. Keen to hear all about it!

shippy__
27-01-2014, 06:53 AM
that's annoying I went straight to 35/37 as that's what I had reserved... owel

Like marshy reckons though, no more reserves for me I am just going to shed up in 35/37 from now on

chubb
27-01-2014, 07:26 AM
Awesome Nick, it is like a totally different bike! The suspension means T1 is not as hairy as it use to be on just preload, under brakes dive to stops has gone, good turn in, can put bike where I want it pretty consistent. The QS is cheating, Dan is going to have to get one, just makes it insanely easy to ride. Good drive with new sprockets and chain, and the UK Ntecs are like shit to a blanket, front never pushed once. I will be very surprised if I don't set some significantly better PB's next week.

You were looking comfortable through turn 1 yesterday when I spotted you a couple of times.

Carl-52
27-01-2014, 05:47 PM
Ha that was a great day everyone!!! Sssshhh dont tell stu23, but i could have actually had a go at passing him into turn 6!!! (im faster than him from 6 through the new section) Stuck with dad "pushing" (obviously not quite up to speed) for about 4 laps then got stuck in traffic! Thanks to Nelso for the tips and watching me ride/giving me something to follow (have you seen Oggy's photos on fb??). Passed Alex Cudlin twice!!!! (he was coaching, but it still counts) Also, Mum and Sisters timing has always been accurate and they got me at 2:13 with traffic!! SOOOO Stoked with that improvement as i was doing 2:18's last time and its only my 5th time ever on a Roadbike!!

chubb
27-01-2014, 05:53 PM
Judo boy timing! Haha

Soon you'll be gridding up next to us in no time.

I pity your dad.... So much money

Carl-52
27-01-2014, 06:00 PM
Mum and Sister have been timing for about 10 years now!!!! so they are accurate within a tenth of a second!! Not too expensive, i contribute as much as i can, using old tires, etc etc Most of the time we go 50/50 with costs. Could move up to Red with those times, but talking to Nelso, Dad and Alex we all thought it was best not to move up untill i am carving up green group making quick confident passes. You have another few days yet chubb, then ill be chasing you :P

Stu23
27-01-2014, 06:36 PM
timing maybe not quite a 10th ! but within 1/2 a second easy...... and yes they have , mum has , been timing for a long time ! I like the work a day, ride a day, yes it helps with the $$

chubb
27-01-2014, 06:53 PM
You have another few days yet chubb, then ill be chasing you :P

I'm not quick anyway

Phat3R
27-01-2014, 07:14 PM
Hey Nick, hope the PEPS scuffs buff out, and a few other things get fixed, so you come out next week to St George with two bikes again. So glad you pulled out the spare and finished the day ... how long's it been off the bike ... must be a month?

I had a great day today (27/1/14) ... really built on yesterday in learning how to get the most out of my "reborn Gixa". I reckon it's now several seconds faster, and I know it's way easier to ride, can hit the same spot on the track pretty consistently now, with the old suspension it was always +- 0.5m.

I'm going to be really interested to see how far I can break into the 1:4X's at St George ... my race PB from last round was a 1:50.x. that QS has to be worth a couple of seconds, the suspension a couple more, and the new sprocket / chain / gearing with ntec tyres at least another.

Now I just need to find a new fuel cap, talk about stoopid! :-)

Phat3R
27-01-2014, 07:21 PM
You were looking comfortable through turn 1 yesterday when I spotted you a couple of times.

Thanks, I'm working my speed through T1 up slowly ... I don't want to be like the poor guy in red group that low sided at T1 today and I later helped sweep his bike onto his trailer from the recovery trailer. I'm amazed he was OK because the bike was farked ... in 101 bits.

Rusty
27-01-2014, 07:56 PM
Ha that was a great day everyone!!! Sssshhh dont tell stu23, but i could have actually had a go at passing him into turn 6!!! (im faster than him from 6 through the new section) Stuck with dad "pushing" (obviously not quite up to speed) for about 4 laps then got stuck in traffic! Thanks to Nelso for the tips and watching me ride/giving me something to follow (have you seen Oggy's photos on fb??). Passed Alex Cudlin twice!!!! (he was coaching, but it still counts) Also, Mum and Sisters timing has always been accurate and they got me at 2:13 with traffic!! SOOOO Stoked with that improvement as i was doing 2:18's last time and its only my 5th time ever on a Roadbike!!

Great going Carl, your times have tumbled. Must have been the tow I gave you. :wink::wink:

Stu23
27-01-2014, 08:02 PM
He is getting so much help from so many people, its quite amazing to see. Kids just soak up this stuff and get to it, he and I are quite lucky to have friends such as you all

Marshy
27-01-2014, 08:08 PM
I don't want to be like the poor guy in red group that low sided at T1 today and I later helped sweep his bike onto his trailer from the recovery trailer. I'm amazed he was OK because the bike was farked ... in 101 bits.

That happened right in front of me as I left the pits. He had slowed quite a bit by the time he hit the dirt, so he rolled a few times and jumped up, but the bike just destroyed itself. It looked (as it cartwheeled) that there was nothing left attached from the main frame back (subframe, swingarm, rear wheel). But hey, looks can be deceiving - my turn 1 crash left hardly any damage at all to the bike. Just damage to me.

chubb
27-01-2014, 08:10 PM
What happened front end tucked or ran wide?

Marshy
27-01-2014, 08:17 PM
Hey Nick, hope the PEPS scuffs buff out, and a few other things get fixed, so you come out next week to St George with two bikes again. So glad you pulled out the spare and finished the day ...

Thanks mate, I don't think it's too bad, hopefully. I really appreciate your help carting my stuff into the trailer (when I had a hissy fit and wanted to take my bat and ball and go home) and then back out into the garage again once I'd rethought it.

Hey, how's this for an awesome wife - I'm totally packed, trailer locked up, sitting in the driver's seat with the engine running and just waiting for the air con to cool the car down enough to shut the door and drive home, when I ring the wife and tell her I crashed AGAIN and that I'm leaving to come home, and she says no, don't do that. Can you fix the bike?, she says. Nope, not at the track. Got your spare bike? Yes, but it needs fairings fitted and a couple of minor things. Well, pull it out of the trailer, set it up and get back out there! Racing is less than a week, and you need to get back on the bike, TODAY! I humbly agreed to do so, and the afternoon was awesome on the old racebike.

491

Marshy
27-01-2014, 08:18 PM
What happened front end tucked or ran wide?

He ran wiiiiide, going around the outside of someone, but just ran completely out of road.

chubb
27-01-2014, 08:20 PM
Thanks mate, I don't think it's too bad, hopefully. I really appreciate your help carting my stuff into the trailer (when I had a hissy fit and wanted to take my bat and ball and go home) and then back out into the garage again once I'd rethought it.

Hey, how's this for an awesome wife - I'm totally packed, trailer locked up, sitting in the driver's seat with the engine running and just waiting for the air con to cool the car down enough to shut the door and drive home, when I ring the wife and tell her I crashed AGAIN and that I'm leaving to come home, and she says no, don't do that. Can you fix the bike?, she says. Nope, not at the track. Got your spare bike? Yes, but it needs fairings fitted and a couple of minor things. Well, pull it out of the trailer, set it up and get back out there! Racing is less than a week, and you need to get back on the bike, TODAY! I humbly agreed to do so, and the afternoon was awesome on the old racebike.

491

Didn't realised you came off today!!

I hope you and your bike are ok!

Phat3R
27-01-2014, 08:54 PM
That happened right in front of me as I left the pits. He had slowed quite a bit by the time he hit the dirt, so he rolled a few times and jumped up, but the bike just destroyed itself. It looked (as it cartwheeled) that there was nothing left attached from the main frame back (subframe, swingarm, rear wheel). But hey, looks can be deceiving - my turn 1 crash left hardly any damage at all to the bike. Just damage to me.

That Suzuki was destroyed ... it had "Suzuki sheered off wheels", the swing arm was a separate part ... I doubt there was a single salvageable part ... maybe the gas tank as it didn't seem to be leaking fuel. I hate watching cartwheeling bikes, especially if they belong to you.

Phat3R
27-01-2014, 08:57 PM
Thanks mate, I don't think it's too bad, hopefully. I really appreciate your help carting my stuff into the trailer (when I had a hissy fit and wanted to take my bat and ball and go home) and then back out into the garage again once I'd rethought it.

Hey, how's this for an awesome wife - I'm totally packed, trailer locked up, sitting in the driver's seat with the engine running and just waiting for the air con to cool the car down enough to shut the door and drive home, when I ring the wife and tell her I crashed AGAIN and that I'm leaving to come home, and she says no, don't do that. Can you fix the bike?, she says. Nope, not at the track. Got your spare bike? Yes, but it needs fairings fitted and a couple of minor things. Well, pull it out of the trailer, set it up and get back out there! Racing is less than a week, and you need to get back on the bike, TODAY! I humbly agreed to do so, and the afternoon was awesome on the old racebike.

491

Not a problem Nick ... thanks for all your help.

And a big thumbs up :thumb: to Donna ... I saw her comments on your FB post outside SMSP this morning ... made me laugh :)

Marshy
27-01-2014, 09:00 PM
That Suzuki was destroyed ... it had "Suzuki sheered off wheels", the swing arm was a separate part ... I doubt there was a single salvageable part ... maybe the gas tank as it didn't seem to be leaking fuel. I hate watching cartwheeling bikes, especially if they belong to you.

Even bikes spinning on their side is painful to watch (when they are yours), especially with shiny new fairings ;)

I thought the bike was an R1 at the time, but there was so little attached to it as it spun through the air that it was impossible to tell for sure. Poor guy; I feel for him.

So it's conclusive, then? Suzukis newer than, what, 06? are unsuitable for track riding, as they disintegrate on impact.

Phat3R
27-01-2014, 10:01 PM
So it's conclusive, then? Suzukis newer than, what, 06? are unsuitable for track riding, as they disintegrate on impact.

Sure seems so ... Dan & mine have taken a beating ... I got mine 3m into the air with 3.5 flips and a 0.5 twist ...

dan
28-01-2014, 08:26 AM
Solid steel. Not so good for speed but sure helps if you decide to separate mid-corner.

Was great to be back out after 3months on the sideline. My pace wasn't exciting but just getting the feel again was fantastic.

Negrogrande
28-01-2014, 08:33 AM
Suzukis newer than, what, 06? are unsuitable for track riding, as they disintegrate on impact.

maybe apart from mine, I have cartwheeled it twice now, first time the subframe took the damage, last time it was the exhaust. bike is now running again, new fairing stay is in. might have to book a cheeky track day when I get my leathers back from Irena

Nelso
28-01-2014, 09:15 AM
Judo boy timing! Haha

Soon you'll be gridding up next to us in no time.

I pity your dad.... So much money

You've still got a bit of time before he will get to your pace and by then, you will have dropped a few more seconds yourself. What is amazing to us oldies, is how fast you lot improve. The speed that Carl has after only 5 days is rediculous and you got up to the faster end of the grid in no time. Makes me wish I had started racing 25 years ago.

Carl-52
28-01-2014, 09:37 AM
Great going Carl, your times have tumbled. Must have been the tow I gave you. :wink::wink:

Most definitely was the tow, it helped me turn later and harder... I never had me knee down on every corner in the new section before (all the way from 6 to Old 8).
Even when Nelso started to chase Alex and Stu23, they were moving away from me but i still had something to chase. I just need to get past the traffic a bit quicker to keep up.


Hope the bikes OK Nick, damage doesn't look too bad... Turn 5 claimed quite a few bikes over the 3 days.

And Chubb, your just getting quicker and quicker, team up with someone and get the to follow you/you follow them. Its invaluable!!

Stu23
28-01-2014, 09:39 AM
scarey thing is Rob, hes doing all this on my old r10 ex race tyres !!! he came in after the 1st session saying theres something wrong with the tyre, its sliding a lot and he got a funny vibration / bouncy feel out of the rear .. Im thinking gearbox, wheel out of balance, we took it apart had it re balanced, seemed all good, i took it for a quick run up the paddock, felt alright.... after the next session he says feels good, still a little slidy, i think i might have been braking hard and getting the rear off the ground a lot !! kids !!!

and this was after i informed him EC is a little slippery on cool mornings for the 1st session

chubb
28-01-2014, 10:46 AM
And Chubb, your just getting quicker and quicker, team up with someone and get the to follow you/you follow them. Its invaluable!!

Yes and no..

getting a tow only gets you so far.. I was having a good chat with Wade about this on Sunday.

It helps because you get to watch what the faster riders are doing (lines, braking and turn points etc - I was watching Sean Condon and Aaron Morris for like one or two corners then they are gone!) so you can emulate their lines etc.

It doesn't help because their bike is different from yours, what they are doing might be slightly different to how they are on the bike whether you have to feel like everything is rushed to keep up with the faster rider.

You might be able to keep up when you're rushing everything going brake brake brake brake gas gas gas gas and nothing is kept smooth and you get the odd 2.05s here and there but no consistency and possibility of crashing is high.

The 4th and 5th sessions for me the tyre was spinning and spitting and I was getting the shits and doing 2.09s 2.10s
After Wade and I talked he told me to just be smooth and concentrate but stay relaxed.
6th session with pretty much tyre past the wear markers, I just went out with Mick J and went meh I'll just have some fun and we were banging out 2.07s-2.08s. I didn't feel like I was trying at all and I still had some in reserve incase of anything that might happen on the track.


p.s the you isn't actually aimed at you its more in general of what I think anyway.. my 2 cents

Carl-52
28-01-2014, 11:22 AM
Yeh i get ya Chubb, when i was following Nelso, Rusty and Stu23 i made sure i didnt start rushing things to keep up. If they pulled away they pulled away. Its funny though, because i said the exact same thing for the last two sessions, just going out to have some fun :rockon: Having them come out and purposefully follow you helps alot though, you come back in and they confirm theories to try or correct small issues :)

senator8
28-01-2014, 11:34 AM
Another thing that helps Carl, is seeing yourself riding. Camera bike in front and/or behind plus on bike gives you a lot of perspective. Maybe get along to ardc day. Doing very well by the way ;)

Carl-52
28-01-2014, 12:12 PM
Thanks senator8! For Dirt tracking we use the gopro and study the videos when we get home, and yes it does help alot (pick up all the little mistakes and how i could deal with it next time). Was thinking of being cheeky and mounting a camera inside the bodywork somewhere with a hole in it, its a shame you cant use them at SMSP days. ARDC might be the go soon, but at the moment im liking not having to pay for the trackdays (staff)...

chubb
28-01-2014, 12:20 PM
ask Mstevo about cameras inside the bodywork.. :whistle:

KANGA
28-01-2014, 12:38 PM
ask Mstevo about cameras inside the bodywork.. :whistle:

Heh I had a marshal come around looking for a guy who had been reported to have a camera in his bike. Grilled me for a while telling me the consequences of having one until he spotted Marks's yellow bike on the other side of the garage and realised he was the culprit. Think he just had to tape it over.

Mstevo
28-01-2014, 01:32 PM
yep after 2 or 3 previous days they saw it during scrutineering (I've never tried to hide it), and came looking for me before the riders brief and asked me to tape it over, I said no worries as i only really use it for racing and I asked do you want me to cover the rear one as well, he rolled his eyes and and nodded yes.... lol

My cameras are integrated through the bike and picks up some of the bikes telemetry as well as timing