Lap Times

[Negrogrande]

As the title suggests

interested on seeing how far in front of me everyone is so I have something to strive for.

I'll start

30/9/2013
EC South Circuit
2009 GSXR 600
Dunlop Ntecs Med (190) rear Soft front (both shagged)
1:07.4 transpoder http://racing.natsoft.com.au/636972305/object_33267360.86U/Result?9


13/9/2013
EC GP Circuit
2009 GSXR 600
Dunlop Ntecs Med (190) rear Soft front (both slightly less shagged)
1:55.6 Qstarz GPS timer

2009 GSXR 600
Wakefield Park - St George 4 Hour
3/8/2014
Dunlop Ntecs Hard (190) rear Med front
1:12.40 - Natsoft

07/08 R1 "The Rainbow Samba"
EC GP Circuit ARDC PP
5/12/2014
KR106 front
KR108 rear
1:43.8 qstarz lie detector

07/08 R1 "The Rainbow Samba"
EC South Circuit
21/6/2015
KR106 front
KR108 rear
1:05.009 Natsoft

[Jashdown]

I'll jump in.

EC GP circuit
2007 GSXR600
Pirelli Supercorsa SC1 front SC2 rear (front 50%, rear 80% worn)
1:47.8 Qstarz GPS timer.

Looking to drop at least a few seconds off in my first race meet in November, hopefully get under 45's.

[BoB]

Nice thread , interested to see how these times will change at the st george meet.

Best for me
EC GP Circuit
2007 cbr 600rr
Ntec front and V01 rear (both new)
1:46:6 Qstarz gps 13/9/13
Averaging 1:49
Now 1:44 at the st george race meet 3/11/13

EC South circuit
21/12/12
1:06.8 transponder
http://racing.natsoft.com.au/637187123/object_31908992.86J/Result?1
(about the only time i'll be in front of senator8)
2008 cbr 600rr
Bridgestone 003 F & R

North circuit
St George race 2/11/13
1:11

E.C. full circuit
2:13 Qstarz gps timer 10/2013

Wakefield - still to do .

[Marty]

07 CBR600RR

Tyres - metzeller racetec slicks

EC GP Circuit
1:42.2 (laptimer)

EC Brabham Circuit
2:10.4 (hand timed)

EC North Circuit
1:10.6 (transponder)

EC South Circuit
1:05.84 (transponder) - shagged tyres

Wakefield
1:06.5 (transponder)

MDTC
0:43.2 (laptimer)

Updated: 1/7/2014

[dan]

2003 GSXR600 with GO FAST paint

EC GP
NTEC Front : Reasonable
NTEC Rear: Ridged off LHS (lol)
Best 1.46
Average 1.47/8
Q Starz

Full Circuit
Tyres as above
Q starz
Best 2.15
Average 2.16/17

Hoping for 1.45s on a rear that isnt shot soon, maybe at St George

[Medic!]

30/09/2013
EC Sth Circuit 1.07.54 Transponder http://racing.natsoft.com.au/638438635/object_16061472.86U/Result?13
09GSXR1000 Track bike
Quickshifter, Slip on, Air Filt, Standard Suspension, Standard ECU, No PC or mapping (as yet)
Pirelli Diablo Supercorsa

2008
EC GP Circuit 1.46 Sony digital Video time stamp
CBR900 (893cc) Road Bike
Slip on, Air Filt, Revalved Suspension (tehnik rip off), Off the shelf jet kit.
Michelin Pilot

[Nelso]

7/4/2013

EC GP Circuit
2004 ZX10R
1:40.4
UK Ntec front and US Ntec rear. Full Akra system, PC3 with a shit map = 150HP.
Rider at 121kg, very unfit and 41 yrs of age.:crutch:

Can't remember the exact details of the other tracks, but I did a 1:07 (something) on the North Circuit, a 1:01 on the South Circuit and a 1:06 at Wakefield (had only done 7 sessions at Wakefield before that days racing), all on the same bike.

[dan]

Hey Nelso do you have any photos handy of your LC race bike?

[Nelso]

Only these two.
239
238

[Mstevo]

mate you need a bigger number board to hide behind down the straights :-)

[Mr.Ed]

Not a bad idea... register a 3-digit racing number too so it doesn't look too obvious and maybe mount the number board on an angle! hahaha

[Marshy]

mount the number board on an angle! hahaha

Oooh, sneaky!! I like it!!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Sneaky+sneaky.+found+on+facebook+The+cake+is+liter ally+a_3ce764_4025016.jpg

[Nelso]

mate you need a bigger number board to hide behind down the straights :-)

Little Mick and I were talking tonight about it and he suggested a big Harley screen.

[Little Mick]

Nelso... I know a guy...

http://i1173.photobucket.com/albums/r593/sophtayl/IMG_0711_zps76fd834b.jpg (http://s1173.photobucket.com/user/sophtayl/media/IMG_0711_zps76fd834b.jpg.html)

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[dan]

1.44.3 on EC GP circuit at st George via natsoft
Uk ntec front / French ntec rear

[Jashdown]

1:45.5 EC GP from transponder. Pirelli superbike SC1 front SC2 rear.

[Negrogrande]

EC Brabham Circuit
Suzuki GSXR-600
Completely shagged French NTECS
2:18
Dropped 12 seconds from my first session until my crash

[Phat3R]

EC Brabham Circuit
Suzuki GSXR-600
Completely shagged French NTECS
2:18
Dropped 12 seconds from my first session until my crash

Did you bin the bike with the fresh paintwork ... what happened ... ???

[Rusty]

SMSP GP Circuit 03/11/2013
2005 ZX6
1:41.3
UK Ntec front and US Ntec rear. Standard everything except for Power Commander and slip on exhaust. 105hp.

SMSP South Circuit 08/07/2013
2005 ZX6
1.02.5

SMSP South Circuit 29/09/2013
1990 Honda RS125
1.02.6

SMSP North Circuit 04/05/2013
1990 Honda RS125
1.12.6

SMSP GP Circuit 10/02/2013
1990 Honda RS125
1.47.8

Wakefield 01/09/2013
1990 Honda RS125
1.09.8

[Negrogrande]

Did you bin the bike with the fresh paintwork ... what happened ... ???

Turn 1 strikes again

[Phat3R]

Turn 1 strikes again

Ohhh man ... that's a fast...ish corner ... much left over of the bike ... ???

Bugger ... hope you're OK?

Reason ??? Suspension and the new bumps???

[chubb]

Was at EC and the bumps aren't bad.

Get your suspenders checked for high speed dampening. Or in general

[Marshy]

His forks were recently serviced and tuned by me, so they were clearly not the problem ;)
The rear shock still needs doing.

He was on 'completely shagged' tyres, which is the most likely culprit IMO. I've crashed before trying to get an extra day out of a tyre, like when I destroyed my shoulder 2 years ago. Cost me over $8k in repairs and medical costs. It's a false economy.


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[chubb]

Ahh yes I toss tyres front ones before they hit the wear markers. Or sell.

The rear ones till the tyre marker or a little bit beyond.

Also did you want a little extra to chuck the rad guard in the post for me??

I'm not up in Sydney till the 12th. Coaching and setup day. Unless you can pop down to SMP south circuit on that day???

[Marshy]

Also did you want a little extra to chuck the rad guard in the post for me??

Yeah, no worries. I'll post it, and just fix me up whenever :thumb:

[KANGA]

Well my first year of track riding is done. Racked up 6 + lvl1 css all up, hopefully more then that in 2014. Started the year doing 2:47 ended it with

EC Full (Brabham?) circuit
2010 ZX-6R
Pirelli Supercorsa sc1 front and rear
2:21 chasing my friend Reece around, 2:23 when setting my own pace.

Pretty pleased with that progress, I thought I was doing mid 2:30s

[dan]

Nice one!

[Negrogrande]

His forks were recently serviced and tuned by me, so they were clearly not the problem ;)
The rear shock still needs doing.

He was on 'completely shagged' tyres, which is the most likely culprit IMO. I've crashed before trying to get an extra day out of a tyre, like when I destroyed my shoulder 2 years ago. Cost me over $8k in repairs and medical costs. It's a false economy.


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this ^

I somehow bent my mid pipe which is super annoying Danmoto don't make them for my gixxer

[Marshy]

How bent is it? If it's just bent and not badly creased, any exhaust shop that mandrel bends should be able to straighten it for you.

[Negrogrande]

How bent is it? If it's just bent and not badly creased, any exhaust shop that mandrel bends should be able to straighten it for you.

This bent!
http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/12/25/yqyvu9a9.jpg
I found the place in 'murica that makes em. All parts ordered now, now the waiting game

[motorbiker]

K4 Gixxer 600 (all at St George rounds in 2013 using whatever official timing they use)

SMP GP
1:45.2

SMP North
1:10.3

Wakefield
1:06.6

Broadford
1:04.8

[JoeShell]

Well im quitting while Im ahead LMAO... Was considering havin a crack at St George this year... Think I need to do some more work yet... lol.. Race your mates for me for a while I think.... :wacko:

[dan]

Nah just do StG!

[Spilly209]

I did a 2:09 at Eastern Creek Extended Brabham(?) circuit recently.

08 R6 - Marshy Special

Quick action throttle, Brembo master cylinder, Annitori QS, UK Ntecs about 50% life.

Does anyone know roughly what lap time this would equate to on the EC GP circuit? Or Philip Island??

I started doing track days on Pani in March, best lap on first day back then was 2:43, best lap at PI was a 2:10. I'm sure I'm quicker on the R6 than the Pani now, go figure lol


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[Marshy]

When the Brabham circuit was introduced and lap times were being compared, it was generally agreed that the new section added 24 seconds, give or take a second. So a 2:09 on the full circuit would be a 1:45 on the GP circuit. Not too shabby! Especially considering your turn 1 entry was rubbish ;)

[chubb]

I would say anywhere between 20-30 seconds depending on how strong you are in the new section.

I compared the FX 600 boys and it added 20 seconds to their time on average.

Comparing with the likes of me. It adds 25-30 seconds. I have a great dislike for the new bit. :sad::sad::sad:

[Saturnalian]

None of these times add up for me. I think i need to do some serious Sth Circuit time.

I don't think i've ridden it since April but back then i was doing something like 2:27. I did 1:55's at PI and 1:49's on the GP at last St George.
I've always been woeful in the hairpin at the bottom of the bowl though. Maybe i'm just faster now......:pray2:
Time to ring Toprider i think and get stuck into it.

[dan]

2.15s last time I was on new track in July and I've done 1.44s on GP now. I'm kind of looking forward to doing it again. I don't mind the new parts but not a fan of that hairpin.

[Spilly209]

2.15s last time I was on new track in July and I've done 1.44s on GP now. I'm kind of looking forward to doing it again. I don't mind the new parts but not a fan of that hairpin.

So does that mean I might be 1:41-42 you think? I guess I'll find out on the 31st!

Can anyone estimate what my times at PI might be? Given I did a 2:10 my first time out when I did 2:43 on the Branham circuit I'm guessing low 1:40's??


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[dan]

So does that mean I might be 1:41-42 you think? I guess I'll find out on the 31st!

Can anyone estimate what my times at PI might be? Given I did a 2:10 my first time out when I did 2:43 on the Branham circuit I'm guessing low 1:40's??


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Nah that was 5 months between drinks so my full track time should be 2.10ish now - all other things being equal. You should be 45s at least on GP I would imagine.

[BoB]

I rekon your good for 1:43 on the gp spilly

[Phat3R]

I don't mind the new parts but not a fan of that hairpin.

Within reason is there much time to be made up at the T11BR hairpin ... it's so flippin slow???

[Saturnalian]

It is when you're getting it wrong, and then climbing up out of the bowl again

[Marshy]

Within reason is there much time to be made up at the T11BR hairpin ... it's so flippin slow???

In general, there's very little time to be made in slow corners. Conversely, fast corners have HEAPS of time to be gained. Unless you've already got it sorted, the biggest place to make up bulk time at the Creek is turn 1. If you are in the high 1:40s (GP circuit), eg 46s to 49s, there's often anything up to 5 seconds to be gained through there alone. Getting it even partly right can drop 2 to 3 seconds almost immediately.

[Carl-52]

EC Full circuit
the fluoro R6
Dad's old ex Race R10's
2:19 (Timed by Stu23) :) Plus constant Knee draggin!!!!! dont like touching the knee at turn 1 tho :faint2:

[chubb]

EC Full circuit
the fluoro R6
Dad's old ex Race R10's
2:19 (Timed by Stu23) :) Plus constant Knee draggin!!!!! dont like touching the knee at turn 1 tho :faint2:

Joining dad at round 1 in four weeks time?

[Carl-52]

Nope but we did agree that if i match his laptimes this year, ill enter the last round :) :nod: :shocked:

[chubb]

Your old man ain't slow!! Soon you'll be overtaking me!!!
Eeek!

[Spilly209]

Oooh, sneaky!! I like it!!

http://static.fjcdn.com/pictures/Sneaky+sneaky.+found+on+facebook+The+cake+is+liter ally+a_3ce764_4025016.jpg

LOL!

[Spilly209]

Cool - sounds like we're basically running identical times mate. Get your foot sorted so we can chase each other around Sir Hop-a-long! :crutch:

actually you and Marshy should have a race down pit lane on your crutches :bounce:

[Spilly209]

I rekon your good for 1:43 on the gp spilly

Hope so Bob! But I only did a 2:09 once that day - and was doing 2:11 - 2:12's on decent laps with limited traffic / no major mistakes today. Couldn't get under 2:10 again for some reason :doh:

[Spilly209]

In general, there's very little time to be made in slow corners. Conversely, fast corners have HEAPS of time to be gained. Unless you've already got it sorted, the biggest place to make up bulk time at the Creek is turn 1. If you are in the high 1:40s (GP circuit), eg 46s to 49s, there's often anything up to 5 seconds to be gained through there alone. Getting it even partly right can drop 2 to 3 seconds almost immediately.

Wow - 5 seconds in one corner! You're a big reason I've gone backwards at turn 1 Marshy - you had to go and crash there didn't you!

[Spilly209]

In general, there's very little time to be made in slow corners. Conversely, fast corners have HEAPS of time to be gained. Unless you've already got it sorted, the biggest place to make up bulk time at the Creek is turn 1. If you are in the high 1:40s (GP circuit), eg 46s to 49s, there's often anything up to 5 seconds to be gained through there alone. Getting it even partly right can drop 2 to 3 seconds almost immediately.

Actually mate I hate doing the tight new section but I think I'm relatively fast through there for some reason - always find I catch anyone I'm following up the twisty bit and often pass people at the T11 hairpin. Could mean my corresponding lap times on the GP circuit wont be as good as they should though...

[Marshy]

Wow - 5 seconds in one corner! You're a big reason I've gone backwards at turn 1 Marshy - you had to go and crash there didn't you!

Mechanical failure - it doesn't count as a proper crash. Woulda been fine otherwise. Go hard or go home!! :target:

[Spilly209]

Mechanical failure - it doesn't count as a proper crash. Woulda been fine otherwise. Go hard or go home!! :target:

True, scaring myself when I passed Sicko once and went in way too hot and felt like I was going to crash the Pani for about 5 seconds that felt like hours didn't help either. People used to tell me that I was fast in T1 when I was slower everywhere else...FML! :laugh:

[chubb]

Hope so Bob! But I only did a 2:09 once that day - and was doing 2:11 - 2:12's on decent laps with limited traffic / no major mistakes today. Couldn't get under 2:10 again for some reason :doh:

build reference points... sounds like me when I had no f idea how to read the track and couldn't get consistent times.

I'm slowly getting the hang of it with trackmaps!

[dan]

Cool - sounds like we're basically running identical times mate. Get your foot sorted so we can chase each other around Sir Hop-a-long! :crutch:

actually you and Marshy should have a race down pit lane on your crutches :bounce:

You are cheating though you have an R6 ;)

[dan]

EC Full circuit
the fluoro R6
Dad's old ex Race R10's
2:19 (Timed by Stu23) :) Plus constant Knee draggin!!!!! dont like touching the knee at turn 1 tho :faint2:

Flying mate!

[Marshy]

You are cheating though you have an R6 ;)

I keep telling you - an R6 is an unfair advantage! They really are just soooo much better than the other 600s. The kwakas are pretty close, and then there's a large gap to the gixxer and honda.

[Phat3R]

Yeah I'm considering disembarking from the Suzuki camp later this year ... those R6's go up to 11. Well by the look of Condor's tacho, 16,500 rpm versus 14,500 rpm on my ancient gixxer! God knows how many ponies that translates into? Dan you should definitely stay with Suzuki's for a few more years ... (give the rest of us a chance!) :)

[dan]

Yeah I'm considering disembarking from the Suzuki camp later this year ... those R6's go up to 11. Well by the look of Condor's tacho, 16,500 rpm versus 14,500 rpm on my ancient gixxer! God knows how many ponies that translates into? Dan you should definitely stay with Suzuki's for a few more years ... (give the rest of us a chance!) :)

When I get down to 40s I'll start thinking about changing. I've got heaps more to learn first and no doubt a have a bit more damage to inflict on my old girl haha

In the meantime it's fun going around bikes that are way faster and worth way more (and maybe even look a little tidier).

[chubb]

Yeah I'm considering disembarking from the Suzuki camp later this year ... those R6's go up to 11. Well by the look of Condor's tacho, 16,500 rpm versus 14,500 rpm on my ancient gixxer! God knows how many ponies that translates into? Dan you should definitely stay with Suzuki's for a few more years ... (give the rest of us a chance!) :)

peak power is made at about 14500 on the R6

[Phat3R]

When I get down to 40s I'll start thinking about changing. I've got heaps more to learn first and no doubt a have a bit more damage to inflict on my old girl haha

I like ... but ... I reckon you should wait till you get into the LOW 30's before changing ... :)



In the meantime it's fun going around bikes that are way faster and worth way more (and maybe even look a little tidier).

LOL ... I am sure you will ... :thumb:

[Phat3R]

peak power is made at about 14500 on the R6

Gixxer doesn't have any peak powa :) ... mine kinda asthmatically wheezes its way onto the main straight ... in fairness gotta ditch the stock exhaust and connect up the PIII ...

[dan]

I like ... but ... I reckon you should wait till you get into the LOW 30's before changing ... :)




LOL ... I am sure you will ... :thumb:

I went back through natsoft to 2004 and dudes were doing 37s on gixxer 600s at the time so until I'm getting within a couple of seconds of that I can't say the bike isn't quick enough cause it is.

[dan]

Admittedly they were probably a little, itsy bitsy better set up than mine but you get my point

[Marshy]

I gave up on my K8 600 when I hit 43s. I was absolutely wringing its neck to do those times - completely ragged edge stuff, right on the limit - and I felt it had nothing left. Admittedly that was on bog-stock, never serviced suspension, which would've made a difference. But then I bought an R6 and did 43s literally on my 3rd flying lap ever on the bike.

Once you ride one, you will understand. Just ask Owen, who rode Steve's R6 on the weekend, and raved about it compared to his gixxer!!

[Marshy]

Admittedly they were probably a little, itsy bitsy better set up than mine but you get my point

In supersport tune, with very hot engines, they are weapons! As a long string of ASBK Supersport titles from Phil Tainton's team will attest. But with not-breathed-on engines, and without highly tuned suspension, they are just too slow and soft.

[dan]

Yeah he loved it. Said he felt faster straight away.

I've never touched my suspension so that is my next step. I won't have time to finish the gold forks before Jan 27 so will be replacing the oil and trying to set it up a bit better. The stuff that came out was horrid and like water.

If I get to the point where I don't feel like I'm making any gains I'll look at options then. Until that point, unless I'm banging out my fast times over and over I'm better off working on my riding than spending $7-8000 to get a cheeky drop in lap times.

I've only been track riding 12 months so I reckon I've got quite a while to go before my bike is the thing holding me back.

[Turbo]

I gave up on my K8 600 when I hit 43s. I was absolutely wringing its neck to do those times - completely ragged edge stuff, right on the limit - and I felt it had nothing left. Admittedly that was on bog-stock, never serviced suspension, which would've made a difference. But then I bought an R6 and did 43s literally on my 3rd flying lap ever on the bike.

Once you ride one, you will understand. Just ask Owen, who rode Steve's R6 on the weekend, and raved about it compared to his gixxer!!

+1,000,000 Totally agree!! So much fun the R6, top bike! I'm planning to sell my K7 750 very soon and cross over. Thanks for the ride Spilly!
First session/hot lap I was easing equaling my 750 times and I came off with the biggest grin on my face. Dan is right too, they DO go to 11!

[dan]

In supersport tune, with very hot engines, they are weapons! As a long string of ASBK Supersport titles from Phil Tainton's team will attest. But with not-breathed-on engines, and without highly tuned suspension, they are just too slow and soft.

They are very soft, that is for sure. Had a ride on my mates 2001 R6 and it felt much more precise than my K3 600.

How much difference do you think it would make to my times jumping on a R6?

[dan]

They are very soft, that is for sure. Had a ride on my mates 2001 R6 and it felt much more precise than my K3 600.

How much difference do you think it would make to my times jumping on a R6?

(Done low 44s on this one, stock az)

[Marshy]

You can have a ride on mine (the old one, not the new one!) and find out. :thumb:

[dan]

You can have a ride on mine (the old one, not the new one!) and find out. :thumb:

Ohhh might have to take you up on that. What's the lap record ;)

[Turbo]

Yeah he loved it. Said he felt faster straight away.

Best time on the gixxer over the weekend was 2:15.008. Found it tricky to be too keen on the gas too early, kept stepping out if I was too aggressive.
R6 felt like it was on rails and always in power band tho and it loved an early twist of the wrist! No doubt a lot of the 'on rails' feeling was suspension and slicks but the weight, wheelbase, rake and revs were glorious!
Seems like my timer dropped out on GPS whilst I was on Steve's bike tho so I'm not sure exactly what I was doing. Trying to decode now but I reckon I'd easily have equalled those times, in my first session on a new bike/setup! :jaw:

[Turbo]

Dan is right too, they DO go to 11!
Rick I mean!

[senator8]

Dan & Rick, I reckon you two should stick with the poor suzukis for a while more. Troopers they are, and reliable. I've squeezed 43s/08s out of my 96 model with original untouched motor, fork revalved and a shock. Someone's got to stick up for the underdog ;)

[Spilly209]

You are cheating though you have an R6 ;)

True but not cheating AS much now, at least it's the same capacity now and not double like the Pani!


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[Turbo]

Dan & Rick, I reckon you two should stick with the poor suzukis for a while more. Troopers they are, and reliable. I've squeezed 43s/08s out of my 96 model with original untouched motor, fork revalved and a shock. Someone's got to stick up for the underdog ;)

Fair point, they have plenty to give and I don't hate the Gixxer,
Just haven't had a grin on my face that big for a while...

[Spilly209]

Fair point, they have plenty to give and I don't hate the Gixxer,
Just haven't had a grin on my face that big for a while...

I actually don't agree with sticking with a Gixer just because they are capable of better lap times in the right hands. Even if the R6 wasn't faster (which it is), if it's giving you a huge grin factor in comparison on every lap, isn't that what it's all about anyway? Like I'm sure Troy Bayliss can get much better times out of a 999 than I will ever get on my Pani but I wouldn't consider it because it's an inferior motorcycle and nowhere near as much fun.

I personally think how you feel on a bike and how much fun you're having is more important than reaching the max potential lap times. I think you'd learn / improve more quickly on an R6 too, esp in Owen's case as he's riding a Gixer 750 so he's going quicker on a bike with less capacity - ie he's not just going quicker cos he has more horsepower, he actually has less. So to me that says the R6 is giving him more confidence / feel to ride better around corners / under brakes etc - where it matters.

Keep in mind too my R6 has bog standard suspension and no real engine work yet. So it's basically stock with a quick action throttle and Brembo master cylinder, slip-on exhaust (no Power Commander) quickshifter and rearsets.

Owen I say clean up the Gixer, flog it off and join the R6 club! As for you Dan, maybe sell 2 out of your dozen or so bikes and get one proper sorted race bike?! :P


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[Turbo]

I personally think how you feel on a bike and how much fun you're having is more important than reaching the max potential lap times. I think you'd learn / improve more quickly on an R6 too, esp in Owen's case as he's riding a Gixer 750 so he's going quicker on a bike with less capacity - ie he's not just going quicker cos he has more horsepower, he actually has less. So to me that says the R6 is giving him more confidence / feel to ride better around corners / under brakes etc - where it matters.

Owen I say clean up the Gixer, flog it off and join the R6 club!

That's what I'm saying Spilly, you're totally right - Grin Factor is a great indicator. Just didn't want to bash the gixxers too bad as they're still great bikes!

Anybody want a K7 750?? :lol:

[Spilly209]

That's what I'm saying Spilly, you're totally right - Grin Factor is a great indicator. Just didn't want to bash the gixxers too bad as they're still great bikes!

Anybody want a K7 750?? :lol:

This guy from yesterday might want a replacement! Another T1 casualty!

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[dan]

Dan & Rick, I reckon you two should stick with the poor suzukis for a while more. Troopers they are, and reliable. I've squeezed 43s/08s out of my 96 model with original untouched motor, fork revalved and a shock. Someone's got to stick up for the underdog ;)

I agree!

I also like not being too worried about throwing it down the road. Tough as nails.

[chubb]

holy sheet that damage to thr front wheel!!

[senator8]

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek, and directed at Rick and Dan who are already racing them. I agree completely - ride what ever makes you happy or suits you best :)

[Spilly209]

holy sheet that damage to thr front wheel!!

One funny thing though, they were saying the rider thought the engine might have seized. So they tried to start it and it fired first go and sounded totally fine!!

[Marshy]

I actually don't agree with sticking with a Gixer just because they are capable of better lap times in the right hands. Even if the R6 wasn't faster (which it is), if it's giving you a huge grin factor in comparison on every lap, isn't that what it's all about anyway? Like I'm sure Troy Bayliss can get much better times out of a 999 than I will ever get on my Pani but I wouldn't consider it because it's an inferior motorcycle and nowhere near as much fun.

Very well said!! As soon as I actually got an R6, I was soooooo bummed at myself for having 'stuck with' the gixxers for so long. What a waste!!

[Marshy]

http://img.tapatalk.com/d/14/01/06/ga4ezu3u.jpg



Tough as nails.

Errr, I call bullshit on this (see above). I've never seen a rim do that, ever, except carbon fibre rims. Also, I've seen several cracked and actually snapped frames on gixxers from relatively minor offs. The K8 I bought from the auctions a while back (don't ask) had a massive crack all the way along the inside of the main frame rail surrounding the engine, but the bike wasn't very damaged (it certainly wasn't visible until I pulled it apart). Not on a weld or seam, but just in the middle of the main frame spar. Into the bin for that one.

And see the big weld down the side of the frame, directly under the 'S' on the tank? They snap that weld fairly frequently in crashes. The 1000 had a factory recall to reinforce the frame for that issue, but the smaller bikes went un-rectified, despite snapping there too (although presumably slightly less frequently than the bigger bikes).

To be fair to Suzukis, I think that the older ones (ie pre K6 1000 and K7 600/750) were actually rather tough. But from then on, they've been rubbish.

[Phat3R]

My comment was a bit tongue in cheek, and directed at Rick and Dan who are already racing them. I agree completely - ride what ever makes you happy or suits you best :)

Knew you were Rick. :)

Dan should definitely stay with the K3 Gixxer ... (but maybe upgrade the SRAD to a slightly younger K1 backup / rain bike for common parts) for MANY MANY more years.

Dan ... you know it make sense! :thumb:

[dan]

Errr, I call bullshit on this (see above). I've never seen a rim do that, ever, except carbon fibre rims. Also, I've seen several cracked and actually snapped frames on gixxers from relatively minor offs. The K8 I bought from the auctions a while back (don't ask) had a massive crack all the way along the inside of the main frame rail surrounding the engine, but the bike wasn't very damaged (it certainly wasn't visible until I pulled it apart). Not on a weld or seam, but just in the middle of the main frame spar. Into the bin for that one.

And see the big weld down the side of the frame, directly under the 'S' on the tank? They snap that weld fairly frequently in crashes. The 1000 had a factory recall to reinforce the frame for that issue, but the smaller bikes went un-rectified, despite snapping there too (although presumably slightly less frequently than the bigger bikes).

To be fair to Suzukis, I think that the older ones (ie pre K6 1000 and K7 600/750) were actually rather tough. But from then on, they've been rubbish.

Those ones are fancy pants, no wonder it broke. Mine is made of solid steel. Handles like it too.

[dan]

Knew you were Rick. :)

Dan should definitely stay with the K3 Gixxer ... (but maybe upgrade the SRAD to a slightly younger K1 backup / rain bike for common parts) for MANY MANY more years.

Dan ... you know it make sense! :thumb:

Thanks Rick, always got my best interests at heart!

[Phat3R]

Thanks Rick, always got my best interests at heart!

It's not just me ... we were discussing on Sat ... James also agrees ... as does Bob ... ohh f#*k it ... the entire CS600 field that qualified greater than 7th agrees! :)

You should take Marshy up on his lap on his older R6 offer ... be interesting ... no no ... don't do that ... what was I thinking! :)

How's the healing ... you putting in your StG form this week?

[dan]

As for you Dan, maybe sell 2 out of your dozen or so bikes and get one proper sorted race bike?! :P


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haha!

For the price of a R6 race bike I have a TZ350 rep, a 1970 H1 500 Kwaka and my K3 gixxer. Way better garage!

I'll be flogging off some of the others to go to the World Cup this year. I got this sorted ;)

[dan]

It's not just me ... we were discussing on Sat ... James also agrees ... as does Bob ... ohh f#*k it ... the entire CS600 field that qualified greater than 7th agrees! :)

You should take Marshy up on his lap on his older R6 offer ... be interesting ... no no ... don't do that ... what was I thinking! :)

How's the healing ... you putting in your StG form this week?

Went to the doctor this morning and he said that it is healing at the pace of a professional athlete. For my specific injury (knocking the front off the talus and dislocating the whole thing), to be walking in two months is exceptional.

I actually went for a ride day before yesterday on my RD and it felt alright. I'm going to come out on the 27th and give it a go. Don't know about St George - I'd love to do it but I need to be realistic and not push it. If I hurt it again it really fucks me up for work and for my trip mid year.

[Phat3R]

Went to the doctor this morning and he said that it is healing at the pace of a professional athlete. For my specific injury (knocking the front off the talus and dislocating the whole thing), to be walking in two months is exceptional.

I actually went for a ride day before yesterday on my RD and it felt alright. I'm going to come out on the 27th and give it a go. Don't know about St George - I'd love to do it but I need to be realistic and not push it. If I hurt it again it really fucks me up for work and for my trip mid year.

Hey great to hear Dan ... must have felt good to be back on a bike ... I get a little twitchy if I don't get a fix every once and a while. Good to see you taking a pragmatic view of the situation, hope you make it back in time though. Wait a minute ... what am I saying ... :)

[dan]

Hey great to hear Dan ... must have felt good to be back on a bike ... I get a little twitchy if I don't get a fix every once and a while. Good to see you taking a pragmatic view of the situation, hope you make it back in time though. Wait a minute ... what am I saying ... :)

Oh man, it felt great! I kept getting confused with the shifting as it's road style and I couldn't remember where first or neutral was. Got tracklife on my mind...

[Tristan]

The best I have done on my K4 GSXR 750 is 1:47 gp and 2:13 full not the best rider ether so they go alright and mine also had over 40000kms on it to lol.


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[Mr.Ed]

I love my Zx6r, I really do. But I have to admit that the first time I rode my old R6 (2006 model) I was blown away... then again I was coming from a cbr600rr '03, bog stock, road trim. And the R6 was a race bike that had a full Akro/PCV/I.Module/custom map/slicks/etc. Suspension and brakes were standard though other than braided lines. I could not believe how much 'racier' the bike was!! From the riding position to how it rev'ed it was light years ahead of the old cbr. And like others have said, straight away I was faster on it but then again I expected that seeing as the bike had a lot more power and decent tires to start with.

Funnily enough, I hated the ZX6R the first time I rode it... came back to the pits after the first session thinking "You should have never sold the R6, you idiot" and then by the 3rd session I was 2secs faster than I had ever been on the R6! :first:

To me, the ZX6R has the edge in power delivery (if not outright power if comparing stock vs stock) and brakes. ESPECIALLY brakes as I hated the brakes on the R6, SRJLs helped but they were never on pair, then again it could have been something on my bike... who knows?! It's also a lot more planted on fast corners and it allows you to make a LOT of mistakes and live to tell the story where the R6 felt like it was going to make me pay every time I screwed up.

In the end, they're both awesome bikes but I'm now a ZX6R lover and I can't see that changing anytime soon!

[Marshy]

To be fair to the ZX6R, I've never actually ridden one in anger. When I was upgrading from the gixxer, I was lucky enough to have 2 mates - one with a ZX6R and one with an R6 let me do a couple of laps back to back. I did 2 veeeery slow laps on the absolutely pristine, show-bike standard ZX, rode down pit lane and jumped straight onto the R6. They both felt SOOOOOO much better than the gixxer - I was just blown away by both. They both had HEAPS more power! The ZX had much more midrange, but on the R6 I kept bouncing it off the limiter cos it revved SOOOOO FAST that I didn't realise I needed to change gear so quickly!

I was very nervous of the showroom condition bike, so I was really slow, but then on the (still very pretty) R6 I was so comfortable after half a lap that I was knee-down everywhere and pressing on very hard!

I'd be very interested in having a crack at a few hot laps on a Zed, just to compare. Hey, maybe Ed or Little Mick could go swapsies with me for a few laps next time we are out? :pray: :pray2:

[Mr.Ed]

More than welcome to take it out for a spin, mate... God knows I own the whorest of the bikes! hahaha

[KANGA]

I'd be very interested in having a crack at a few hot laps on a Zed, just to compare. Hey, maybe Ed or Little Mick could go swapsies with me for a few laps next time we are out? :pray: :pray2:
You didn't ride that one you built with the monster energy fairings?

[Marshy]

:thumb: :peace: :rockon:

[Marshy]

You didn't ride that one you built with the monster energy fairings?

Nope. I had planned to, but Displaced was waaaaay too keen to buy it asap, and almost before it was finished...

[dan]

Nope. I had planned to, but Displaced was waaaaay too keen to buy it asap, and almost before it was finished...

So just hot laps of lane cove then?

[shippy__]

I guess this is the corect thread to ask in, will qstarz work through a fiberglass tail ?

[Liamo]

It works under the seat of my bike, next to the battery, so I see no reason why it wouldnt work under the rear cowl.

[chubb]

Tape it to the forks or triple

[shippy__]

Tape it to the forks or triple


cough cough

[chubb]

Oh sorry. Didn't realize you people can't run laptimers during SMP ride days :p

[Marshy]

Suit hump.....

[dan]

what's a lap timer?

[Medic!]

I just count in my head. 1/1000 2/1000. 3/1000 etc

[Phat3R]

I just count in my head. 1/1000 2/1000. 3/1000 etc

:laugh::lol::heh::thumb:

[Spilly209]

It works under the seat of my bike, next to the battery, so I see no reason why it wouldnt work under the rear cowl.

James has his under his ducktail at race meetings to protect it from possible crash damage & works fine. Suit hump has worked for me. The new Spidi suit has a hollow section in the hump for a hydration pack.


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[Little Mick]

More than welcome to take it out for a spin, mate... God knows I own the whorest of the bikes! hahaha

Ditto Nick. Not sure when I am out next but happy for you to have a play ;)

[Phat3R]

You are of course referring to ARDC practice days and race meetings.
BTW my favourite movie is Fight Club, I think it's the rules that attract me :)

[Marshy]

BTW my favourite movie is Fight Club, I think it's the rules that attract me :)

^^^^ Wot he said!

[Nelso]

You knuckleheads are aware that the marshals are well aware of your timing devices.:suspicious:

As long as they are concealed, you will get away with it; but, if you make it obvious, you are asking for trouble.:nono:

Now, carry on with your cryptic discussion. :lalala:

:laugh:

[dan]

The only safe place to keep them is nestled up next to your colon.

[Mr.Ed]

If that's the case, I don't mind getting caught... :nono:

[Marshy]

You knuckleheads are aware that the marshals are well aware of your timing devices.:suspicious:

As long as they are concealed, you will get away with it; but, if you make it obvious, you are asking for trouble.:nono:

Now, carry on with your cryptic discussion. :lalala:

:laugh:

And please dont post stuff like "I did a 1:35" at a track day today". Thanks!

[senator8]

If that's the case, I don't mind getting caught... :nono:

You would if Nelso caught you. He wears size XXXXL gloves

[Mr.Ed]

hahaha not what I meant!!

[Marshy]

You would if Nelso caught you. He wears size XXXXL gloves


hahaha not what I meant!!

I was thinking the same thing, Ed!! Sounded like you wanted a rectal exam...... :confused:

[Mr.Ed]

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6501647104/h13E4539B/

[chubb]

hahaha well you kinda walked into that one

[Marshy]

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-TY_UPrdjqaI/UUdlQd_AkpI/AAAAAAAAAYg/O6aXDfYSiVE/s1600/Being-dyslexic-Harold-had-walked-into-more-than-one-bra-looking-for-a-drink--sig-750w.jpg

[Marty]

My dash has a built in GPS timer but I can't use it coz it says out lap in huge letters of it in the staging lane when in lap timer mode :(

[Negrogrande]

My dash has a built in GPS timer but I can't use it coz it says out lap in huge letters of it in the staging lane when in lap timer mode :(

you can turn the backlight off on mine. they let me know they knew it was there, but asked me to keep it "off"

crashed at 173KM/h ahem at the ARDC day

[chubb]

My dash has a built in GPS timer but I can't use it coz it says out lap in huge letters of it in the staging lane when in lap timer mode :(

TBH they don't look..

[mercho]

WHich Dashes do you guys run with the inbuilt timers? Im sick of the old XT infrared one and cant be bothered with the phone/apps..

[chubb]

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/chubb35/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/chubb35/media/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg.html)

[Nelso]

TBH they don't look..

Yep, I never check the dash and you would be unlucky for anyone else to either. As I said, if it's obvious ie. timer on the triple clamp or phone stuck to the tail or tank, we HAVE to do something about it; but, if it's not obvious, it will slip through undetected. It's pretty hard to do anything about aftermarket dash units that have built in timing, just like you can't do anything about the OEM lap timer that's built into modern bikes.

The whole timing thing is part of MEGA's contract with ARDC to differentiate it from race days and race practice days and has to do with the insurance cover. It was all done long ago before bikes came with timers built in and before the era of GPS and smart phones so the contracts and rules are all behind the times. Lucky for all of you rule breakers, the technology is way to advanced to keep track of, so if you do it discretely, it is impossible to detect. Just be smart about how you word things in social media etc. to not incriminate yourself and remember, you're not breaking any rules if a friend decides to time you from the roof and then tells you what your times were, later.;)

[Mr.Ed]

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/chubb35/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/chubb35/media/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg.html)


p0rn

[Spilly209]

p0rn

What are those GPR units? See them on a few bikes


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[Mr.Ed]

Steering damper

[Spilly209]

Steering damper

Oh! Never would have guessed that. I'd ask how it works but i imagine it's hard to explain on a forum


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[Marshy]

Rotary damper. Instead of a straight plunger-type piston, the damping action works in a circular direction.

[Marty]

WHich Dashes do you guys run with the inbuilt timers? Im sick of the old XT infrared one and cant be bothered with the phone/apps..

I got the H&M same as Chubb, I've had a few problems with it so I'm not endorsing it highly but it's pretty good.


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[mercho]

Looks good rancell! They are very exy though, im thinking of just a dedicated GPS laptimer mounted permanently above the dash or something similar...

[chubb]

Looks good rancell! They are very exy though, im thinking of just a dedicated GPS laptimer mounted permanently above the dash or something similar...

I got mine cheap cheap cuz it's second hand

I highly recommend the starlane laptimers as a stand alone

[Tristan]

If any one wants some cheap ones I can get Motod ones for about $112.


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[Mouse]

If any one wants some cheap ones I can get Motod ones for about $112.


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Tried these Tristan?

[Marshy]

If any one wants some cheap ones I can get Motod ones for about $112.

Yeah, but these are infra-red beacon types, right? Which are completely useless (sorry, don't mean to offend).

I'm just getting in some pretty special but competitively priced timers. Should be a week or so. Watch this space...

[Mouse]

Yeah, but these are infra-red beacon types, right? Which are completely useless (sorry, don't mean to offend).

I'm just getting in some pretty special but competitively priced timers. Should be a week or so. Watch this space...

Keen as when you get your hands on them Nick. Can't rely on my friendly spectators getting times on me every lap, every session.

[Tristan]

No I haven't used them there very basic from what I'm told but do the trick for $100 mark and yes infrared so you can only use them on races or ARDC days.
Heaps of guys In the States use them but I already sell the HM dashes so that spot is taken for lap times. I'm seriously cutting back on the amount of stuff I sell and just putting my focus into to the stuff I import. But I'm still happy to help every one on here out with stuff I don't normally carry.


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[Saturnalian]

http://i1220.photobucket.com/albums/dd451/chubb35/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg (http://s1220.photobucket.com/user/chubb35/media/Chubbs%20R6/E67D3C6C-E977-4290-BBD3-9B3FF1D5D553.jpg.html)

Put it away before i suddenly have to buy one...

[Tristan]

$1050 for every one on hear.


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[Medic!]

EC Sth Circuit
09GSXR1000 Track bike
Quickshifter, Slip on, Air Filt, Standard Suspension, Standard ECU, No PC or mapping
Superbike take off NTECS
Cut my last attempt in sept 2013 by 5 secs.
1.02.6

[Tristan]

Good work last time I did it the best I did was 1.10 that was before the last st George rd


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[dan]

EC Sth Circuit
09GSXR1000 Track bike
Quickshifter, Slip on, Air Filt, Standard Suspension, Standard ECU, No PC or mapping
Superbike take off NTECS
Cut my last attempt in sept 2013 by 5 secs.
1.02.6

Woah! That's a massive improvement on a short track. Nice one.

[mercho]

I highly recommend the starlane laptimers as a stand alone

Bought one last night (just the lite version), anyone have some sample pics from their R6's where to mount this puppy??

[chubb]

I cut a little bit of Velcro and stick it to the dash itself on the lower part of the rpms..

[mercho]

Cheers, ill have a muck around when it turns up

[Marshy]

I cut a little bit of Velcro and stick it to the dash itself on the lower part of the rpms..

+1. I do this too. For the bigger units, I put some velcro on the fairing stay in front of the dash and lean it against the dash.

GPX Zed, anyone? They are unreal!! In stock and ready to ship/pick up. I will be fitting one to my R6 today, and will do a write up.

http://tarmactalk.com/forum/showthread.php?461-XT-Racing-GPX-Zed-Special-offer!

[stevem]

+1. I do this too. For the bigger units, I put some velcro on the fairing stay in front of the dash and lean it against the dash.

GPX Zed, anyone? They are unreal!! In stock and ready to ship/pick up. I will be fitting one to my R6 today, and will do a write up.

http://tarmactalk.com/forum/showthread.php?461-XT-Racing-GPX-Zed-Special-offer!

Marshy, I am looking at a Starlane X3 are the Zeds an equal of these or more or less.Interested in your write up

[Marshy]

Marshy, I am looking at a Starlane X3 are the Zeds an equal of these or more or less.Interested in your write up

Hey Steve, I was running a Starlane GPS-RW on my spare/wet bike until recently when it died in a crash (not the fault of the laptimer - it got pancaked). I used to think it was great, but the software always pissed me off and over time I've had various issues with it, from corrupted/garbled screens to never finding satellites. I used to have to turn it on and off repeatedly until it finally (randomly) found the satellites, then leave it on all day - if it turned off, it has the same lengthy hit-and-miss as to whether it worked or not. The shift lights eventually got completely out whack (although this clearly won't be an issue on the 3X) and would trigger at random rpm....

The buttons didn't work properly either - totally impossible to use with gloves on, and still very difficult to use even normally. Again, it looks like they have fixed this for the Stealth.

Then there's the software. Faaaark me! It's Italian, so completely non-intuitive and fickle. Some stuff just never made sense, but most I eventually worked out.

There were a couple of things I really liked about it - the 'fastest lap/sector' light was the most-used feature of all, even though it was a tiny red light on one side of the unit. Also, it synced to the laptop using bluetooth, which was uber-cool - once you spent a day realigning Com ports!! I don't think the 3X has this though - it's USB only, from the bit I read.

The XT Racing was a total revelation in comparison! The software is written by Americans, and it shows. It is intuitive, and just works. It has more features than the Starlane too. You can do a lot more configuration, and data review, on the actual device itself, without the need to use a laptop.

in summary, I thought the Starlane was great (when it was new and working properly), until I tried the XT. Then I couldn't believe how much better the XT was. The XT is a fair bit cheaper too, which is kinda odd because usually you get what you pay for. Except Italian stuff, maybe, where you pay over the odds for a product that looks flash, but doesn't work properly for long and is infuriating to live with on a day-to-day basis. Ducati, anyone?

Here's another review that essentially says the same thing as I found: http://highperformancecrew.com/showthread.php?20583-Starlane-Stealth-GPS3x-lap-timer

I'll do an install thread over the weekend of the Zed.

[shippy__]

wife timed me on the new to me r6


Brabham circut
day 1 :230.00's
day 2 :222.00's
day 3 :215.291.... conistant 216's,215's

[chubb]

Also, it synced to the laptop using bluetooth, which was uber-cool - once you spent a day realigning Com ports!!

haha I can vouch for that... it was very anooying when I had the starlane timer!! VERYYY

[Carl-52]

New times!!!! Timed by official 4 hour endurance team (Mum and Sister)
SMSP Full circuit
Standard 06 R6 (Cat removed, Set Suspension)
Dad's Used up Pre-Raced R10's
2:13 in some traffic too. :rockon: :wacko:

[Turbo]

So it appears the easiest way for me to improve times is to follow Marshy!
After a couple of warm up laps, consistent 2:13s timed by Dan on the roof.
Clearly you weren't pushing but it was enough to take me along for the ride!
Thanks for the tow. Marshy!!
:clap::dance:

[dan]

Yiew!

[Spilly209]

Well I've done the north circuit for the first time today and did 1:11's pretty consistently. Did the GP circuit yesterday and best times were 1:45's so smack on what people estimated based on my extended track times. Hope I can do a 2:09 tomorrow, it's my best ever time & also my race number!!


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[Spilly209]

So it appears the easiest way for me to improve times is to follow Marshy!
After a couple of warm up laps, consistent 2:13s timed by Dan on the roof.
Clearly you weren't pushing but it was enough to take me along for the ride!
Thanks for the tow. Marshy!!
:clap::dance:
I'm relishing being slightly quicker than you until you get an R6 mate. Until then you can ride mine but only if you promise not to time yourself! 😜



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[Phat3R]

Well I've done the north circuit for the first time today and did 1:11's pretty consistently. Did the GP circuit yesterday and best times were 1:45's so smack on what people estimated based on my extended track times. Hope I can do a 2:09 tomorrow, it's my best ever time & also my race number!!

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Tomorrow is GP circuit Steve ... 1:45's for you ...

[Spilly209]

Tomorrow is GP circuit Steve ... 1:45's for you ...

I'm sick of doing 45's Rick, I wanna a 43! The thing that sucks about my times is I usually set a decent one (for me) at the start of the day then generally run within a second of it for a few sessions before going backward at the end of the day. So I'm very consistent - at not improving! I'd love to do even just the odd lap that was faster!


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[Phat3R]

I'm sick of doing 45's Rick, I wanna a 43! The thing that sucks about my times is I usually set a decent one (for me) at the start of the day then generally run within a second of it for a few sessions before going backward at the end of the day. So I'm very consistent - at not improving! I'd love to do even just the odd lap that was faster!

45's don't suck Steve, good time will come ...

[shippy__]

north circut 1:10.1270
natsoft

[Spilly209]

Well I finally did a 1:43 on the GP circuit in Clubsport qualifying. Thanks to Sicko for txting me to let me know or I prolly never woulda found out! He was watching the races on Natsoft all w/e like a roving reporter 👍👍👍


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[dan]

Saw that as well. Nice work. I've got some catching up to do - although a 1.50 on my old girl is equivalent right???

[mercho]

Had a good weekend, first time back at the creek in a while..

1:10.1 first time on the North Circuit with a shagged rear
1:41.7 on the GP circuit (right before i lost the front and binned it)
1:04.8 at Wakefield last year

Starting to see a bit of progress on the "new" bike...

[Spilly209]

Saw that as well. Nice work. I've got some catching up to do - although a 1.50 on my old girl is equivalent right???

Depends on which old girl you mean Dan. The 125 yea, we'll knock a few seconds off :P


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[Spilly209]

Had a good weekend, first time back at the creek in a while..

1:10.1 first time on the North Circuit with a shagged rear
1:41.7 on the GP circuit (right before i lost the front and binned it)
1:04.8 at Wakefield last year

Starting to see a bit of progress on the "new" bike...

Good times mate. Was that this weekend? You didn't go down at turn 2 or 8 in the last 600 clubsport race did you? How bad was the bike damaged?



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[dan]

The aprilia 125 or the bucket????

[Spilly209]

The aprilia 125 or the bucket????

Either / or, there you go, can't get fairer than that!


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[mercho]

Good times mate. Was that this weekend? You didn't go down at turn 2 or 8 in the last 600 clubsport race did you? How bad was the bike damaged?



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Yeah this weekend... Was out in the 600's not clubby, went down at T2.. Just a snapped clutch lever and the GB case cover was disintegrated, apart from that bike was fine...

[Spilly209]

Yeah this weekend... Was out in the 600's not clubby, went down at T2.. Just a snapped clutch lever and the GB case cover was disintegrated, apart from that bike was fine...

Ha, just a minor flesh wound then!


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[dan]

Either / or, there you go, can't get fairer than that!


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You are too kind!

[Marshy]

Yeah this weekend... Was out in the 600's not clubby, went down at T2.. Just a snapped clutch lever and the GB case cover was disintegrated, apart from that bike was fine...

You know, we coulda fixed that very easily Brad....

[chubb]

I know. He was soft though. :p

[mercho]

You know, we coulda fixed that very easily Brad....

Yeah I had spare levers just not a engine cover.. I was knackered after Fri sat so I bailed... As Rancell said soft lol.

Had a look at the front for the first time this arvo, and it's very strange. Its a pirelli sc2 new on Fri, it's ridiculously smooth up the lhs of the tyre past the first wear marker, like glass... Trying to work out what happened..

[Mr.Ed]

It sounds like 'trailbraking like a mofo' happened!


Oh, and that's supposed to be a compliment!

[mercho]

It sounds like 'trailbraking like a mofo' happened!


Oh, and that's supposed to be a compliment!

Haha id love to take it but the photos don't lie, fingers were off the lever..

[Carl-52]

first dry day on the Gp circuit yesterday.
06 R6 finished the day on an R10 where the tread pattern on the left side of the tyre is no longer there !!!!
Got down to consistent 1:48's and dipped into the 47's :D
Tried out Red Group and felt comfortable in there as well!! Still went into to Green to practice some passing tho.

[Negrogrande]

More improvement needed

EC GP Circuit
27/6/2014
1:53:039
Q Starz Lap Timer
French Ntec Med Front Hard Rear

still a lot of improvement to be had, last session had a lot of traffic, dropped 4.5 seconds through the 1st sector (finish line to tip in on 2) in that session though.

looking forward to getting more confidence through 1

[Marshy]

Track time (and confidence) is king for improving lap times. You've had an enforced break, so more time in the seat will work wonders!

[Negrogrande]

Finally posted a time at Wack7

2010 Gixxer 600 (I swear I thought it was an 09)

Fren NTEC
Med Front
Hard Rear

Natsoft timing
Practice 1:21.57 (Track temp 1C )
Qualy 1:15.76
First stint 1:13.99
Second Stint 1:12.40

actually began to enjoy myself by the end, still losing shitloads of time at the bus stop and turn/fish-hook

[Mr.Ed]

I was great at the fish hook till I crashed there... twice. In the same day. hahaha Now I suck badly. No idea what the bus stop is but I'm pretty sure I suck at it too.

[shippy__]

some 4hr lap times

https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10569121_511046222359320_516401962_n.jpg?oh=e21f64 1b32c8d03a9121a5a65f4cdfcd&oe=53E02EFB&__gda__=1407207654_72bdc53c1217814f3df5db43caff36b 4

[Mr.Ed]

That's some really good consistency towards the end

[KANGA]

EC Full Circuit
2010 ZX6R
Uk Ntec take offs front and rear
2:14
Did a few of those otherwise was running around 15's & 16's. Still heaps to work on but at least I have an idea on what to work on now.

[dan]

EC Full Circuit
2010 ZX6R
Uk Ntec take offs front and rear
2:14
Did a few of those otherwise was running around 15's & 16's. Still heaps to work on but at least I have an idea on what to work on now.

nice one!

[Turbo]

I'm relishing being slightly quicker than you until you get an R6 mate.

The time is now Spilly!! me and my R6 are coming to get ya!

[Negrogrande]

EC GP Circuit
2009 Gixxer 600

French NTEC
Med Front - somewhat used
Hard Rear - Shagged

Qstarz GPS timing

1:49.3

slowly getting faster throughout the day

rear, really started to go off in the 4th session, vids to come

[Metal-Man]

North Circuit: 1.09.1720 Dunlop KR451 med
GP Circuit: 1.42.2670 Dunlop KR451 med

Wakefield Park, Rnd 3: 1:07.8330 Dunlop KR106, KR108
Wakefield Park, 4hr Rnd 4: 1.06.xxxx Dunlop KR106, KR108
Broadford, Rnd 5: 103.027 Bridgestone V01 Rear med, front Dunlop KR106 (best finish, 3rd overall)

[zoidberg]

GP circuit,

Metzeler Racetec slick, K1 front, K2 rear

2nd session best of 1:43.75, happy, didn't feel that fast, still felt awkward on most of the track, different line for turn 2 basically every lap.

5th session 1:42.2! So damn stoked! Felt really good that session, felt nice and relaxed, had been pushing the front after the bridge in the 4th session, added one extra line of preload in the front end which settled it down nicely.

6th session, front tyre had a band of tear both sides, felt vague and tucky from the get go, ended up backing off for turn 1 a looot earlier than I had been all day as I just didn't trust the front end, was going to pull in but went for one more lap. Bad move.

Lost the front in turn 8 exit, already hard on the gas after the ripple strip ends and it went. Was sliding the front hard for a long while, thought I had it, was trying like hell to jam my knee in to the deck to bring it back, really thought I had it until BOOM. No dice.

Destroyed the race glass, damages radiator, lhs rearset gone, hole in swingarm. Holed up leathers, but I was fine!

Bummed out that I kinda ignored the signs the bike was giving me, but I know why it happened and am okay. Still bummed though...

Yet happy with the lap time!

[Turbo]

Bummed out that I kinda ignored the signs the bike was giving me, but I know why it happened and am okay. Still bummed though...

Yet happy with the lap time!

Damn man! Sorry to hear about the bin... Classic tale of that 'one more lap'. So hard to resist when you're on a flier tho!! :flame:
Glad you're ok tho, and congrats on the new PB!!

[Phat3R]

Lost the front in turn 8 exit, already hard on the gas after the ripple strip ends and it went. Was sliding the front hard for a long while, thought I had it, was trying like hell to jam my knee in to the deck to bring it back, really thought I had it until BOOM. No dice.

Destroyed the race glass, damages radiator, lhs rearset gone, hole in swingarm. Holed up leathers, but I was fine!

Sorry to hear, saw a bike in yellow group also bin it at T8 in session 5 on Sun ... fast place to lose it ... I reckon that bike got 5 meters of air when it hit the gravel trap ... saw what little remained of it as I was packing up.

Got any pichas of the outcome to leathers - always interested in how different brands / types hold up?

[Phat3R]

When they say hot and cold on these graphs I suspect it's a European version of hot and cold.
K1 front is soft and looks like it is designed for cooler temps? ... would K2 have been a better compound for Sunday's warmer temperatures?
http://www.metzeler.com/site/com/products/tyres-catalogue/Racetec-Slick.html

[Marshy]

would K2 have been a better compound for Sunday's warmer temperatures?

Yes. As Spilly found out running an SC1 front. It was fine when the track was 20 degrees in the morning, but when the track passed 50 degrees by lunchtime, it was hot tearing and getting chewed up big-time!

fyi, Pirelli and Metzler are manufactured in the same factory(ies?), and whilst they seem to use slightly different rubber/compounds, they are pretty similar. Here's the Pirelli tech info page: http://www.pirelli.com/pirellityre/ww/en/motorcycle/diablo_superbike.tab?tab=9

[Nelso]

There were a shit load of crashes at turn 8, both days of the weekend. I think a lot of them got caught out hitting it from a different angle and at a greater speed than they do with the full circuit.

[zoidberg]

I so much prefer turn 8 from GP circuit, loads more fun. I tried to upload some shots of my leathers, but keep getting an error? They held up pretty well, I've dropped them off to Irena at Gimoto to get repaired. Outer layer on my right hip wore through as did the stitching, also on my right forearm. Didn't get through the inner layer anywhere. No holes, no skin loss. Was sliding for a long time, so pretty happy about that! Didn't tumble thank god. Helmet never touched the deck!

Interesting about the harder compound for hotter days, my front was toast, that one more lap thing got me...

[Phat3R]

I tried to upload some shots of my leathers, but keep getting an error?

Just need to holler for a Marshy to fix that upload error. Seriously PM him and let him know.

[Marshy]

Just need to holler for a Marshy to fix that upload error. Seriously PM him and let him know.

Try again now. I've made a heap of changes....

Let me know if you're still having trouble (with the error message, if possible).

[zoidberg]

Just tried again and got the same, comes up with <database error> That's trying to either insert image or via attachments.

[Mr.Ed]

I hardly ever bother with uploading straight from the computer unless it's a really small pic... even if limits are big a lot forums will show an error message. Just upload it to your website of choice (i.e. picasa, dropbox, etc) and then link it here. Guaranteed success.

[Marshy]

Just tried again and got the same, comes up with <database error> That's trying to either insert image or via attachments.

Ok, one more time for the dummies! (ie me). Please try again; I'm pretty sure I've fixed it now.....

[Marshy]

I hardly ever bother with uploading straight from the computer unless it's a really small pic... even if limits are big a lot forums will show an error message. Just upload it to your website of choice (i.e. picasa, dropbox, etc) and then link it here. Guaranteed success.

I think this is because images are often stored in the database with everything else (which is great for ease of backups etc, but mysql can be shit at large files). I've just converted it to storing images in the normal filesystem, outside of the db, so it should work now. Let me know if not!!

[Mr.Ed]

915

Edit: It works for me!:heh:

[Mr.Ed]

Ok, now it doesn't work anymore... go figure!

[Marshy]

916

Biiiiig (7MB photo) as a test......

[Mr.Ed]

Last time I tried it worked then I refreshed the page and the attachment wouldn't work anymore. I also have to use the basic uploader as the regular one is non responsive but I reckon that has more to do with my Chrome than anything else...

Here goes nothing

917

[zoidberg]

Okeydokey, lets see. Pics are start of the day, end of the day and my leathers. I think they held up pretty well!921922

918919920

[Marshy]

919

NOOOOO!!!! My fairings!! :hurt:

Berik suits crash really well, IMHO.

[Marshy]

I also have to use the basic uploader as the regular one is non responsive but I reckon that has more to do with my Chrome than anything else...

Me too. This happened before also. Can't remember the fix (clearing the browser cache, maybe?). Lemme have a look.

[zoidberg]

NOOOOO!!!! My fairings!! :hurt:

Berik suits crash really well, IMHO.

Awww, I'm sorry fella. I haven't told Luke I crashed his bike yet, I'd feel bad...:faint2:

Speaking of which, I am going to have to chat to you once my bank balance recovers a little about some bits and pieces I am going to need.

[Marshy]

Me too. This happened before also. Can't remember the fix (clearing the browser cache, maybe?). Lemme have a look.

Ok, got it. I've updated the server file again, and now it's just a case of going into your Chrome settings, selecting 'show advanced settings', then clear browsing history, then check the images and files option and select 'from the beginning of time' in the drop down list.

Then restart Chrome and voila! The flash uploader works again! :thumb:

[Mr.Ed]

Don't be too hard on yourself zoidberg... now that I saw the pictures it became clear what the problem was. The paintjob. That color combination is well known to cause crashes to even the most seasoned and skilled riders.

[Saturnalian]

Okeydokey, lets see. Pics are start of the day, end of the day and my leathers. I think they held up pretty well!921922

918919920

dude, that'll buff right out....

[Little Mick]

Gotta agree with Ed there zoid. I have also fallen amiss due to a similar paint job

[Mr.Ed]

Coming to think of it, the only bike I never crashed never had a paint job... lol

Dam you, great powers of jynx!!

[Little Mick]

You didn't crash mine and your new paint job which is a copy of mine. ... just saying. ...

[KANGA]

You didn't crash mine and your new paint job which is a copy of mine. ... just saying. ...
Have you crashed in those leathers Mick? kinda hoping I've picked a good luck scheme there

[Little Mick]

Have you crashed in those leathers Mick? kinda hoping I've picked a good luck scheme there
Hell yeah...http://tapatalk.imageshack.com/v2/14/09/30/44397214e72d1edfc1d9bf0f606a8e25.jpg

[Little Mick]

So many times it isn't funny... and watch qualy. .. its a biatch

[KANGA]

well ... at least you landed in something soft

[Little Mick]

It was a great outcome... t1 6th gear at wAcky. . Forgot to turn. .lucky for the mud as I walked away
Bike was racing the next day

[senator8]

Sorry Mick. You gave me a little giggle remembering that pic

[Mr.Ed]

You didn't crash mine and your new paint job which is a copy of mine. ... just saying. ...

Changes were made lol but even then I've hardly ridden the thing. Give it time and I'm sure I'll prove my point *sigh*

[Marshy]

You didn't crash mine and your new paint job which is a copy of mine. ... just saying. ...

http://media-cache-ec0.pinimg.com/736x/e4/db/6f/e4db6f6413e393242734666614ebed70.jpg

[KANGA]

EC Full Circuit
2010 ZX6R
Uk Ntec take offs front and rear
2:12
Consistently doing 2:13-14 otherwise. Didn't even run off track once today lol :thumb:

[nigelnobody]

2:01 full brabham,lightly modified streetbike,pirelli slicks.

[Marshy]

2:01 full brabham,lightly modified streetbike,pirelli slicks.

That's pretty fast!! :thumb:

[nigelnobody]

Those pirelli's have insane grip,rear was on it's 3rd day sc1f/2rear:-)

[senator8]

2:01 full brabham,lightly modified streetbike,pirelli slicks.

What bike/mods? Got any pics?
Introduce yourself ;)

[nigelnobody]

Sprung to my weight standard suspension,yoshi pipe,filter.sorry prefer to be anon.know most of you regular punters by sight

[Marshy]

Sprung to my weight standard suspension,yoshi pipe,filter.sorry prefer to be anon.know most of you regular punters by sight

Hmmmm, a mysterious stranger! The plot thickens ;)

Although with a Yoshi pipe, I'm going out on a limb and saying you are a gixxer rider.....

[Marshy]

know most of you regular punters by sight

And this.... I could have an educated guess now.

[Turbo]

And this.... I could have an educated guess now.
2:01s narrows the list down a fair bit too..

[senator8]

Shawn Giles?

[Marshy]

Shawn Giles?

I suspect Gilesy wouldn't know which way the new section went.

[senator8]

I suspect Gilesy wouldn't know which way the new section went.

Haha, he's ridden it as much as anybody with Toprider and was one of the first to ride the full track ;)

Mark Giles?

[Marshy]

Haha, he's ridden it as much as anybody with Toprider and was one of the first to ride the full track ;)

D'oh!!! Of course. Forgot about that :doh:

[nigelnobody]

just a regular dude keen to keep having fun and not upset MEGA,marshy thought you might sell more pirellis now

[Saturnalian]

I reckon i've seen this dude weavin' in and out of traffic in yellow group a few times.....

[Marshy]

just a regular dude keen to keep having fun and not upset MEGA,marshy thought you might sell more pirellis now

:thumb: :thumb:

[Negrogrande]

New PB
EC GP circuit
9/11/14
1:45.89
Timing natsoft
UK NTEC M front
French NTEC H rear

[Carl-52]

New PB chasing Negrogrande!!!
EC GP circuit
9/11/14
1:46.03
Bridgy R10's

[senator8]

Nice work boys

[Carl-52]

The nice work was done by you !!! lengthy stint off the bike and you come straight back, takes a lot does that.