St George round 5 & 6 Eastern creek 2/3 November

[BoB]

Ok i have been working up to this for a year now and nervous as hell but the regs are out and i have just sent my form in , doing both days in 600 clubsport and 600 class

Saturday is the North and south circuits (depending on what class your in)

Sunday gp circuit so same as Feb earlier this year .

http://www.motorcycling.com.au/PDF_Files/Competitor_Info/ci_sr_hondarjays_18102013.pdf

[BoB]

Not sure how it works when you send in your application but my licence runs out on the 31/10 . Will they accept my application pending me showing my new licence on the day?

[senator8]

Yes, you'll be fine. You normally show your lic at sign on.
You'll be fine mate and I'm sure will love it.

[Marshy]

Not sure how it works when you send in your application but my licence runs out on the 31/10 . Will they accept my application pending me showing my new licence on the day?

Yes. In fact, so long as you've sent in your renewal in time, just write the expiry as 31/10/2014. The licence number remains the same, and they check your licence when you arrive anyway.

[dan]

I'll be racing in both 600 categories as well. First races! Been waiting my whole life to be in a motorcycle race. So excited!

[Stu23]

only just found the entry forms !! was looking on the st george site... will send them in this weekend.

for those in your 1st race ;) good luck, and your going to love it

[chubb]

I got my money on MasterCard racing

[Tristan]

I filled my forms out today as well hopefully I can get a tack day in some where between now and then

[Marshy]

I filled my forms out today as well hopefully I can get a tack day in some where between now and then

w00t!! Be good to see you racing.

[Mstevo]

entry sent and the bikes still coming together ;-/

[Negrogrande]

After discussions with Marshy, I think I will do Saturday as well. the opportunity to practice turn 1 & turn 10 will be good for me.

Will send forms off next week, who wants to share a garage?

[Stu23]

Always a good idea to get up to speed, and sat is a great way on that track.... well fingers crossed it will be

[Team Zero]

We did that track in February and it was a lot more fun than I expected. Surprisingly I am looking forward to racing it on Sat. I am hoping to cross enter too. Not far away now.

[Marshy]

After discussions with Marshy, I think I will do Saturday as well. the opportunity to practice turn 1 & turn 10 will be good for me.

Do it! It's actually really cool, not crappy like you'd imagine. I don't think a ride day would be too special, but racing is a whole other thing - it was tops in Feb!!

[Marshy]

Entry in!! :thumb: :rockon: :peace:

[Phat3R]

I filled in the entry form but I don't know my grade, D I guess?
What's the deal with the numbers. I have a registered one, 288, but the farker is just about too big to fit on the bike as per the regs, should I put some white vinyl under it, plus where's the best place to get legit race numbers? Marshy do you do those with your new vinyl cutting system?
Also read something about needing to find a sex slave for the day for the clerk of the course to be eligible to win a prize? Meh ... my prize winning chances only involve a wooden spoon anyway! :-)
And finally I don't know Bretto's full name to put down on the form to share a garage with him, I was going to PM him but the "other track forum" shat itself into tiny little bits last night.

[Marshy]

I can do you some numbers, in the correct font, but make them a tad smaller to fit in the available space. Just let me know the area you have to work with. What bike is it again? You need to have a contrasting background (you should have a proper number board, but it's not imperative so long as they are clearly legible coming down the chute.

Can't remember Bretto's surname either!

[Phat3R]

Thx I've now got via SMS Bretto's details!

Thx Marshy, the bike is a GSXR600K1 with W4U glass ... it has space in the middle for numbers ... but they want them on one LHS for GP and Nth Circuits. What's the deal with the rear, across or one on each side? I'll measure / photograph it tomorrow and send you the details.

[Phat3R]

I'll measure the white space size tomorrow, but I think with some slightly smaller numbers it should fit in the middle of the nose?
160

[Saturnalian]

In the middle will be fine. I've got regulation number sizes and font on mine and they are big with 3 digits.
I tend to think if i went the next size down as i've seen on other racebikes it would be fine also.

Precut MA approved race numbers are available fromwww.mototrack.com.au

Here are the MA regs.....

161162

[chubb]

To be honest, st george wont care unless they cant read the numbers.. thats all it boils down to

My numbers that I used before dont really comply but they havent said jack

[Marshy]

I can do precut numbers in regulation size and font, or any amount smaller (not just whatever their 'smaller' size is). If you want regulation, that's easy. If you need just a fraction smaller (or any height or font), just let me know. $1 each.

If anyone wants your name/nickname for each side of the windscreen, $5 for both sides (two stickers). White, black, red, green, orange, blue available. Pick a font, or I'll do them in something cool. :thumb:

[chubb]

Awesome!!

[Saturnalian]

or any amount smaller (not just whatever their 'smaller' size is).

Calm down Nick. Its your site. If you don't want me to mention other service providers, just say so.

[Marshy]

I'm calm ;) Sorry if it sounded otherwise.

It's nothing to do with other providers - I don't mind at all! This isn't RATs - we don't have those stupid rules (which is mostly what made me leave in the first place). Feel free to post any shops or sites that interest you, or that you recommend. It's all a rich tapestry of motorcycle goodness :peace: There are no restrictions here, except to be nice to each other.

I find $2.50 per number a bit rich, that's all. I was just offering an alternative for TT members. We aren't officially selling vinyl cutting, but the equipment is there, so it might as well be used.

[Saturnalian]

I'm calm ;) Sorry if it sounded otherwise.

It's nothing to do with other providers - I don't mind at all! This isn't RATs - we don't have those stupid rules (which is mostly what made me leave in the first place). Feel free to post any shops or sites that interest you, or that you recommend. It's all a rich tapestry of motorcycle goodness :peace: There are no restrictions here, except to be nice to each other.

I find $2.50 per number a bit rich, that's all. I was just offering an alternative for TT members. We aren't officially selling vinyl cutting, but the equipment is there, so it might as well be used.

Hear hear...!! All good

[dan]

I've still got to make those sheets up and send over to you marshy. I'll do some measurements asap. Got another full spare set of rims now so will bring them around for some newer rubber as well.

[Stu23]

Entries in an envelope waiting in the out post :)

[Marshy]

Entries in an envelope waiting in the out post :)

Jeez, you are old-fashioned!! Why not just scan and email them to Jan? Surely being in IT, you should be able to figure that out, or failing that I'm sure Carl can show you how! :popcorn: :dance:

[senator8]

I wasn't going to say anything.

[Marshy]

http://somedesignblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/the-technophobe-client.png

[Phat3R]

To save some electrons I waz going to hand deliver the forms to Jan on Wed night. It's been a while since I have been to a club meeting.

[Stu23]

im old fashioned !! cheeky pups...

[chubb]

Haha I use snail mail as well

[dan]

Just entered!

[Marshy]

Just entered!

Booyaa!!! Now you just need to work on Baddie..... ;)

[BoB]

Yes lets all work on Baddie , but 1st he needs to get on the bike at the track and do some laps , not just sitting on the bike in the garage.. once we get this happening then :flypig::flypig:

Excellent Dan , looking forward to the racing with other newbies from tarmac talk should be a laugh at the back of the grid , hoping we dont get lapped by marshy.

[Marshy]

hoping we dont get lapped by marshy.

I'll pay you good money to get in the way of the guys I'm chasing!! ;)

[senator8]

Memories from round 1. Hopefully they combine the classes again and I can have a run with the 600's :) Bloody Team Zero!

sorry unedited

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vfJ0uXs8TvI

[Team Zero]

Damn you all to hell team zero. Great footage. Looking forward to the last round.

[Marshy]

Awesome vid! Good aggressive riding from the badly-crossed-up Mr Zero ;) A pass into T1 is always impressive.

[Marshy]

Some North circuit memories from Round 1 this year....:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYY_-OHE7M

[Stu23]

Was a fun weekend........apart from nearly putting myself into orbit with 41psi in the rear !! note to self, check check and chack again..

[chubb]

Little Mick are you not entering this round?

[chubb]

Some North circuit memories from Round 1 this year....:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhYY_-OHE7M

That was good fun Nick!

[Little Mick]

Little Mick are you not entering this round?

No unfortunately. Trophy is all urs ;) :thumb:

[chubb]

No no.. youre a C grader anyway and I'm out I think

[senator8]

No no.. youre a C grader anyway and I'm out I think

Why Rancell?
Mick, how's the healing going?

[chubb]

Funds

[chubb]

I wont decide till the cutoff date

[Little Mick]

Coming along daily rick. Not ready for racing yet but walking around with and accasional limp. Specialist in 5 weeks for follow up. Should be better by then but I'm probably out for the rest of the year. :(

[senator8]

I hear ya Rancell

Sounds like it's going in the right direction Mick. Plenty of time mate

[Jashdown]

I'll be there! First race!

[Stu23]

Excellent Jash, Im sure your going to just love it

[Jashdown]

I've been watching yours and marshys vids, I know I'll love it :D

[Stu23]

Marshy's are better ;)

[chubb]

don't sell yourself short old man

[Marshy]

don't sell yourself short old man

No no, he's right - mine are better :pound: :pound:

[Stu23]

Hahahah certainly are :)

[chubb]

Hahahha modest much

[Marshy]

Hahahha modest much

I'm modestly awesome ;)

[Negrogrande]

Form sent by electronic mail...

didn't even print it out :P

in for both Sat & Sun

[Marshy]

didn't even print it out :P

https://i.chzbgr.com/maxW500/6881409792/h00577ECA/

[Negrogrande]

Have to cancel :(

return flight is on Friday 10:30PM won't have enough time to pack the van let alone ride jet lagged :(

[chubb]

Ill take your place... :)

[Marty]

Have to cancel :(

return flight is on Friday 10:30PM won't have enough time to pack the van let alone ride jet lagged :(

Nooo my garage buddy :(

I sent my forms in a couple of days ago. I'm in for both days

[Mr.Ed]

Have to cancel :(

return flight is on Friday 10:30PM won't have enough time to pack the van let alone ride jet lagged :(


Leave the van packed and make sure to stay awake on the plane... I've done a track day exactly 12hs after landing from a 26hs flight. It can be done... hahahaha

[Negrogrande]

Leave the van packed and make sure to stay awake on the plane... I've done a track day exactly 12hs after landing from a 26hs flight. It can be done... hahahaha

might have to get some quick set concrete.

in all honesty I will probably give it a miss

[Marshy]

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/543472.jpg

[Mr.Ed]

I'm not gonna tell you it's easy... but there plenty of pluses!! Like, you'll be outside which is the best way to get rid of jetlag... and you'll be doing something that will keep you awake regardless! Just make sure to have a decent coffee in the morning and back it up after lunch. I really needed one just before the 4th session but once I was on the track I had no issues.

[Baddie]

http://www.badweatherbikers.com/buell/messages/4062/543472.jpg


PMSL

[Marty]

might have to get some quick set concrete.

in all honesty I will probably give it a miss

Why not scratch Saturday and do just the Sunday?




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[Negrogrande]

my only concern is the short turnaround both ways.

flying to Singapore on Sunday, Dubai on Tuesday & back to Sydney on Friday night (last plane in).

I don't usually fly very well either

[Marshy]

http://hugelolcdn.com/i700/147556.jpg

[Negrogrande]

haha!

[dan]

At least do Sunday!

[Jashdown]

How strict are they with spectator entry? I know you get three 'tickets' automatically, but do they actually check at the gates or what? I've got four people that want to come and don't really want to pay another $15 for a ticket for someone to watch a family member race in a club event...

[Marshy]

They are very, very (ridiculously!!) strict. It's just silly, and I mentioned that at the club meeting the other week, but they weren't the slightest bit interested in changing. I've had to jump out of my car at the gate at Wakey 6:30am and run up and give a spare ticket to a racer in a car ahead because he'd left his tickets in the pits and they wanted him to pay full price. What person would turn up to a Goulburn race meet, in the middle of winter, at sparrow's fart in the morning, that wasn't competing (or a family member of a competitor)? Daft.

Just ask around in the pits (or beforehand), and you can normally find people that have spares they don't need, particularly for one day or the other (you can use the same ticket for a different person on Saturday and Sunday).

[chubb]

Yeah they just need the money to run the club I suppose

[BoB]

can you use your ardc membership card to get yourself in and then give the tickets to the family?

[chubb]

Pretty sure ARDC only applies to FX?

[chubb]

Ninja edit..

Dont worry about me.. I just read about free entry to smp races

[Jashdown]

Hmm, that's lame. When do they give you the tickets?

Anyone got a spare ticket they won't need?

[chubb]

They post it out to you in the mail

[Marshy]

can you use your ardc membership card to get yourself in and then give the tickets to the family?

Actually, I believe you can, yes. I've used mine at PCRA events that had an entry fee, which is same same.

[Phat3R]

Hmm, that's lame. When do they give you the tickets?

Anyone got a spare ticket they won't need?

You can have one of mine.

[James]

Form submitted! Both Sat and Sun both 600 classes.

Cant wait!

[Marshy]

Form submitted! Both Sat and Sun both 600 classes.

Cant wait!

Booyaa!!!

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-Zs36rBL-GGQ/UEEVOegcDpI/AAAAAAAAAQ4/Bsck64Qc4Tk/s1600/561997_479354075410644_1100904454_n.jpg

[Jashdown]

You can have one of mine.

That would be awesome if that's alright with you! I'll throw you a pm soon.

[dan]

Should I have received confirmation of my entry yet? First time doing this so anxious to have it all locked and loaded!

[chubb]

No you'll receive your final instructions in the mail 3-5 days before.

[Marshy]

It also goes up on the st george website a couple of days before. Just to build the suspense.... ;)

[chubb]

Can't scope out your competition to see if you can be faster than them ;)

[dan]

Will have to study the natsoft page and check out the times haha

[senator8]

A lot may have changed since the beginning of the year ;)

[dan]

I have actually noticed that already just by keeping my eyes and ears open ;)

[dan]

DOUBLE WINK

[Marshy]

A lot may have changed since the beginning of the year ;)

It has for me! I'm now older and fatter ;)

[senator8]

It has for me! I'm now older and fatter ;)

You're not Robinson Crusoe there unfortunately.

[Medic!]

Let's do a wife swap. :gossip:Mine causes me so much stress I'm about 15kg under weight. Might have to get the leathers taken in a few inches if I lose anymore.:banplease:

[Marshy]

Let's do a wife swap. :gossip:Mine causes me so much stress I'm about 15kg under weight. Might have to get the leathers taken in a few inches if I lose anymore.:banplease:

Hmmm, swings and roundabouts there, I guess. Maybe I'm so fat because the wife looks after me so well. Yeah, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!! :popcorn:

[chubb]

Nothing like cupcakes for dessert! :pray2:

[Stu23]

can we not talk about weight !

[Mr.Ed]

can we not talk about weight !

What's the latest on that front Stu? Should I start having tarts delivered to your door yet?? I need you to carry at least a 15Kg ballast, mate... and that's if I lose a few more kgs! hahahha

[chubb]

I think modified motors in club racing should be banned!

[Stu23]

I think anyone under 90kgs should carry ballast to make it up on their back !!

[Mr.Ed]

hahaha I'm afraid I'll have to side with Chubb... I've been thinking about the Ninja300 Cup and to be competitive on that I'd need to drop at least another 5Kg (currently 70Kg) and pray for some new found talent!!!

Or we can do both:

Rider under 90Kgs - ballast to make up for it

Non stock engine - add 20kgs

:eyebrows:

[Marshy]

I think anyone under 90kgs should carry ballast to make it up on their back !!

+1 billion!!

[Stu23]

:)

[senator8]

I think modified motors in club racing should be banned!

Why? There's already classes for that. One being called production racing


Hmmm, swings and roundabouts there, I guess. Maybe I'm so fat because the wife looks after me so well. Yeah, that's my excuse and I'm sticking to it!! :popcorn:

Umm yep. I'm happy with mine. Keep asking though Medic. You might get a taker :)


can we not talk about weight !

Agreed


hahaha I'm afraid I'll have to side with Chubb... I've been thinking about the Ninja300 Cup and to be competitive on that I'd need to drop at least another 5Kg (currently 70Kg) and pray for some new found talent!!!

Or we can do both:

Rider under 90Kgs - ballast to make up for it

Non stock engine - add 20kgs

:eyebrows:

Ed, if you're 70kgs what are you on about? If I was you I'd lay low about the weight. There are plenty of us with 20+ kgs on you ;)

[Phat3R]

hahaha I'm afraid I'll have to side with Chubb... I've been thinking about the Ninja300 Cup and to be competitive on that I'd need to drop at least another 5Kg (currently 70Kg) and pray for some new found talent!!!

Or we can do both:

Rider under 90Kgs - ballast to make up for it

Non stock engine - add 20kgs

:eyebrows:

Or could just have a TT fatties sub class - with a box of cup cakes for the winner? :bolt:

I'm pretty keen on one of these little beasties too.

[chubb]

Over 70kgs racing club class

[senator8]

Over 70kgs racing club class

That's PCRA :)


Or could just have a TT fatties sub class - with a box of cup cakes for the winner? :bolt:

I'm pretty keen on one of these little beasties too.

Pcra would never spend that much on trophies

[Marshy]

Pcra would never spend that much on trophies


:pound: :pound:

[Phat3R]

Question re tip over sensors ... for racing do you disable them or you would prefer it cuts out?

[Marshy]

Definitely leave them connected. Mucho damage can result from not having one.

Back in the olden days, before tip-over switches, we used to race with lanyards on (like on a tinny with an outboard, on a stretchy cable), so that if you parted company with the bike it killed the ignition.

Like this:

http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!B0Gslk!Bmk~$(KGrHqEOKiUE)Q)HiJgLBMY3Hfs1(g~~_35.J PG

[Mr.Ed]

Ed, if you're 70kgs what are you on about? If I was you I'd lay low about the weight. There are plenty of us with 20+ kgs on you ;)

Never ridden the bike in this new 'class' so I'm not too sure if I'd have any advantages! Last time I raced I was 85kgs...

[Phat3R]

Never ridden the bike in this new 'class' so I'm not too sure if I'd have any advantages! Last time I raced I was 85kgs...

So what's 10kg worth around the Gardner Circuit on a 300 twin?

The Ninga300 cup could be sponsored by Lite & Easy or Jenny Craig ....

[Phat3R]

Definitely leave them connected. Mucho damage can result from not having one.

Back in the olden days, before tip-over switches, we used to race with lanyards on (like on a tinny with an outboard, on a stretchy cable), so that if you parted company with the bike it killed the ignition.

Like this:

http://i.ebayimg.com/01/!B0Gslk!Bmk~$(KGrHqEOKiUE)Q)HiJgLBMY3Hfs1(g~~_35.J PG

Thx Marshy ... I've still got to sort out my side stand kill switch for St George ... if I keep the side stand for TD's I was thinking that I should also keep the kill switch too so I don't go out with the thing down / partially up.

Seems like you can just remove the switch at the plug and put another plug in with a shorting wire to stop the cut out. Like this: http://www.boostbysmith.com/eliminators.html. May make the most sense ... but where to go for these Suzuki electrical connectors ... dealer I guess ... or buy a switch from wreckers and just use the plug? Wonder which will be cheaper?

[chubb]

I didnt think you could race with a side stand?

Or cant I understand engrish

[Phat3R]

I didnt think you could race with a side stand?

Or cant I understand engrish

Correct, it's currently an on again off again sort of thing! :-)

Race = No side stand
Track Day = side stand

[Marshy]

Or cant I understand engrish

It's you, chubb ;)

I had a look in the shed, and I've got a sidestand for gixxer, but not the wire (and thus the plug). I've also checked the partial wiring loom left over from the gixxer (and the two complete yamaha ones) and I still don't have a spare plug, sorry. You could wire a switch into the bike side of the cutout plug, to close the circuit when you remove the sidestand for racing....

Oh, I've also just found a K&N filter for a K8 gixxer 600/750 in excellent condition (I just serviced it with cleaner and new oil). $40 if anyone wants it.

[Phat3R]

You could wire a switch into the bike side of the cutout plug, to close the circuit when you remove the sidestand for racing....

Hey switch isn't a bad idea ... JayCar have some marine grade SPST I was eying off for your fan mod when I move to H2O for the radiator ... might get two of them and do some soldering this weekend.

[Mr.Ed]

So what's 10kg worth around the Gardner Circuit on a 300 twin?

The Ninga300 cup could be sponsored by Lite & Easy or Jenny Craig ....

Not sure... but if on F1 the current issue is drivers having to lose weight 'cause 5Kg more equals something like 0.2sec/lap, I'm guessing on an even lighter and extremely underpowered vehicle (35hp?) it should prob be a lot more.

[Marshy]

Hey switch isn't a bad idea ... JayCar have some marine grade SPST I was eying off for your fan mod when I move to H2O for the radiator ... might get two of them and do some soldering this weekend.

Get a good switch! I was just out in the shed AGAIN replacing the switch for the fan. The internals just keep breaking, which is really weird. I've got an even bigger, more solid one this time.


Not sure... but if on F1 the current issue is drivers having to lose weight 'cause 5Kg more equals something like 0.2sec/lap, I'm guessing on an even lighter and extremely underpowered vehicle (35hp?) it should prob be a lot more.

Yeah, it's heaps. Someone was telling me the perceived hp to kg ratio, but I forget now. Something like 3hp per 10kg. Needless to say it makes a big difference. Graham kept pulling away from me big-time on the straight bits at Broadford, and I said to him afterwards 'jeez that bike of yours has some mumbo', and he said 'it's just got 110hp' which is basically identical to mine. But he's probably 65kg and I'm almost 30kg more....

[Nelso]

I think anyone under 90kgs should carry ballast to make it up on their back !!

I've told you before it needs to be anyone under 120kg.:mad: All you light weight 90kg riders need to stop your whinging about weight disadvantages.:nono:

[Mr.Ed]

Where are all the engineers when we need them!? :clock:

[Marshy]

:pound: :rofl:

[Little Mick]

what are we engimaneering????

I have a plan....design for light weight ballast ;)

[Mr.Ed]

what are we engimaneering????

I have a plan....design for light weight ballast ;)

As long as it's low volume I'll back it up!

[Little Mick]

will be based on water, then have a hydrogen separator incorporated that will split the molecules, forming gases and making them lightweight. have them converted back to liquid for end of race testing...

[dan]

I may not be in the 90kg+ club but my mental and mechanical disadvantages are enough trouble as it is!

[Marshy]

will be based on water, then have a hydrogen separator incorporated that will split the molecules, forming gases and making them lightweight. have them converted back to liquid for end of race testing...

Ooh, a fuel cell!! Mmmm, I'm thinking very KERS-ish, delivering an extra 80hp??

[Marshy]

mechanical disadvantages

Yup, you ride a Suzuki. That's a massive disadvantage right there.

<runs for cover>

[chubb]

Yup, you ride a Suzuki. That's a massive disadvantage right there.

&lt;runs for cover&gt;

Hahaha!!

No need to run for cover, those zook riders will convert when they ride another bike.. like those green or blue blooded ones

[Little Mick]

Ooh, a fuel cell!! Mmmm, I'm thinking very KERS-ish, delivering an extra 80hp??

hehe ... maybe an extra "cooling Fan" that forces extra air into air intakes at high pressure to "keep it all cool" :)

no one will notice...:eyebrows:
240

[Marshy]

Love it!!

[Negrogrande]

Thx Marshy ... I've still got to sort out my side stand kill switch for St George ... if I keep the side stand for TD's I was thinking that I should also keep the kill switch too so I don't go out with the thing down / partially up.

Seems like you can just remove the switch at the plug and put another plug in with a shorting wire to stop the cut out. Like this: http://www.boostbysmith.com/eliminators.html. May make the most sense ... but where to go for these Suzuki electrical connectors ... dealer I guess ... or buy a switch from wreckers and just use the plug? Wonder which will be cheaper?

I might have a spare I bought it from this guy on eBay http://stores.ebay.com.au/smartmoto

I will check my toolbox

[Negrogrande]

Oh, I've also just found a K&N filter for a K8 gixxer 600/750 in excellent condition (I just serviced it with cleaner and new oil). $40 if anyone wants it.

me

[Marshy]

me

Done. Are you able to make it tomorrow??

[Marshy]

Does anyone want the sidestand?? $30. (they are like $110 from Metros).

[Phat3R]

Get a good switch! I was just out in the shed AGAIN replacing the switch for the fan. The internals just keep breaking, which is really weird. I've got an even bigger, more solid one this time.

That's weird ... got to be related to vibration???

Well that's put me off the switch for the side stand idea because if it breaks I don't move, going to go with the plug with shorting wire to replace whole sensor, because it's pretty much bullet proof.

I might wire the fan to the unused light switch on the left hand bar ... that switch should work fine vibration wise.

[Phat3R]

I've told you before it needs to be anyone under 120kg.:mad: All you light weight 90kg riders need to stop your whinging about weight disadvantages.:nono:

Can't they just make the bike / rider combo the same weight for everyone in the class? Still slight advantage for the lighter riders if the ballast is situated under the current C of G.

[Little Mick]

Can't they just make the bike / rider combo the same weight for everyone in the class? Still slight advantage for the lighter riders if the ballast is situated under the current C of G.

No! :)

[Stu23]

YES !!! lolol

[Negrogrande]

Done. Are you able to make it tomorrow??

Can't make it tomorrow, after negotiating the day off I've been stung by a bee on my hand and now have bratwurst for fingers, can swing by yours on Monday though

[Marshy]

Can swing by yours on Monday though

:thumb:

[dan]

Marshy I'll have to pop over one evening next week (Wednesday?) for some tyre changing if that suits?

[dan]

Yup, you ride a Suzuki. That's a massive disadvantage right there.

<runs for cover>

This guy.

I have no complaints about the old girl at this stage. She is very big though...

[dan]

Thx Marshy ... I've still got to sort out my side stand kill switch for St George ... if I keep the side stand for TD's I was thinking that I should also keep the kill switch too so I don't go out with the thing down / partially up.

Seems like you can just remove the switch at the plug and put another plug in with a shorting wire to stop the cut out. Like this: http://www.boostbysmith.com/eliminators.html. May make the most sense ... but where to go for these Suzuki electrical connectors ... dealer I guess ... or buy a switch from wreckers and just use the plug? Wonder which will be cheaper?

Come on, live a little haha

Lose the kill switch and install a clutch bypass so you can start it without pulling the clutch AND in gear. Heaps real!

[Mr.Ed]

No! :)


http://www.automizeit.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/guinness-brilliant.jpeg

[Marshy]

Marshy I'll have to pop over one evening next week (Wednesday?) for some tyre changing if that suits?

Sure Dan, no worries.

[Marshy]

Come on, live a little haha

Lose the kill switch and install a clutch bypass so you can start it without pulling the clutch AND in gear. Heaps real!

I did both to my gixxers. Never looked back! Besides, you've only gotta ride down pit lane with the sidestand still down once - with the entire 180 riders at a track day screaming and pointing at you - before intense embarrassment cures you of your forgetfulness. Trust me, I know ;)

[dan]

I did both to my gixxers. Never looked back! Besides, you've only gotta ride down pit lane with the sidestand still down once - with the entire 180 riders at a track day screaming and pointing at you - before intense embarrassment cures you of your forgetfulness. Trust me, I know ;)

Getting pointed at by White Group. How emasculating haha

[Marshy]

And chicks in leathers.....



http://ct.fra.bz/ol/fz/sw/i46/5/3/3/fbz_3725d8e8d7184cbdb81307ffd075f88a.jpg

[Phat3R]

And chicks in leathers.....

Carly Foulkes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKOMMY0nIbI)

BTW: Read Eddie (Lee's ???) comment (2nd down) :suspicious: ... take ... take ... take ...

[dan]

hello carly foulkes

[chubb]

Marshy not doing double duty???

Can't believe the 600 grid size and the clubsport as well!

[Stu23]

Im sure he is :)

[Jashdown]

Over 40 for 600cc and over 30 for clubby. It's gonna be crazy!

[dan]

Fuck going to be mental. First race, massive grid, can't wait!

[Phat3R]

I'm going to be up the back for L1 T1 ... that's going to be pants pooping scary mid pack with that sized field.

[Jashdown]

Yeah first race for me too, hopefully I'm lucky and qualify at the back so I haven't gotta deal with the mess through turn 1 after my first race start, haha!

[Marshy]

Turn 1 off the start looks WAAAAY worse spectating than it does when you're actually in the midst of it. There's more room between bikes than you think. ;)

[Mstevo]

The riders have spoken.....this is what they want
255 entries and 195 bikes
hoping for a smoothly run meet scrutineering is going to be ugly

[Mazabuzz]

Turn 1 off the start looks WAAAAY worse spectating than it does when you're actually in the midst of it. There's more room between bikes than you think. ;)

Easy for you to say buddy, you're always at the pointy end of the field. T1 is bad but I think T2 is worse for the first lap after the start but that's half the fun

[chubb]

You can get alot of riders round the outside of turn 1 off the start. Everyone brakes for turn 1 when you dont need to

[chubb]

Come to think of it, it was teniswood who taught me you dont have to brake for turn 1 at all on a 600 even on a flying lap.

Just got to be committed and not look at the outside edge grass!!

;)

[Mazabuzz]

Just down shift right Chubb 5th to 6th

[chubb]

6th to 5th

[Mazabuzz]

lol.. yeah that's what I meant. At least someone's on the ball

[Marshy]

Easy for you to say buddy, you're always at the pointy end of the field.

'Always' is a relative term in this case - 18 months ago I was at the back of mid field. Admittedly, turns 1 and 2 are a bit easier towards the front.

[senator8]

Come to think of it, it was teniswood who taught me you dont have to brake for turn 1 at all on a 600 even on a flying lap.

Just got to be committed and not look at the outside edge grass!!

;)

There are a lot of variables to consider regarding that advice. One of them being terminal velocity at the end of the straight. The fastest riders I know tell me the harder and longer you hold it on the more you will need to brake. The faster I'm going in lap times the more I'm having to brake and it helps steer it in. Each to their own I guess. I've got a few 279s and 281s on my GPS from yesterday. I can't do it without braking ;)

[Jashdown]

If you run both days, do you have to go through scrutineering on the Sunday? Just wondering how busy it will be on Sunday.

[Stu23]

You don't go through scrutineering on Sunday if you were done on Saturday

[Marshy]

There are a lot of variables to consider regarding that advice. One of them being terminal velocity at the end of the straight. The fastest riders I know tell me the harder and longer you hold it on the more you will need to brake.

+1. Aim to back off/brake at the slip road a few metres before the 100 board, but you will normally need to brake a little even on a 600. Unless you're an A grade super-champion....

[chubb]

I make up for my lack of corner speed in all other corners in turn 1 :)

[dan]

I don't brake just shift down going into turn 1 but most people are probably going quicker than my old 600!

[dan]

'Always' is a relative term in this case - 18 months ago I was at the back of mid field. Admittedly, turns 1 and 2 are a bit easier towards the front.

What has changed in your approach to riding to achieve the improvement?

[Marshy]

What has changed in your approach to riding to achieve the improvement?

I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!

[Little Mick]

I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!

+1 !!! although thats not to say go out hell for leather beyond skill level, but definitely backng yourself a bit...And racing is a great way to do that as you are so focussed about the battle with competitors that you go smoother and faster than if you were on a track day...

[Mstevo]

I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!

+1


I have a mate doing his first race this weekend and he won't do any lead up ride days in case he crashes. (and he needs the practice)
Riding close quarters was my biggest hurdle when I started racing 4 years ago

I'm doing a day at WP on Wednesday to get some last minute tweeking done on the new suspension, that will have been 4 ride days in 3 weeks leading up to this last round

[chubb]

I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!

Well that is the biggest mental block I have currently at the moment.

[Little Mick]

Chubb... dont worry about times... they will happen...Just race !!! best way to not worry about crashing, even when you do

[dan]

I stopped worrying about crashing. Simple (and as massively complex!) as that. I was always thinking about it, every corner, and now it never comes into my mind. That change alone is worth 10 secs a lap. Forget suspension tweaking or more horsepower... the real speed comes from within the mind.

Interestingly, I'm also much less likely to crash now!

I can understand that. Due to my limited experience I'm still establishing how fast I can actually go through corners. I've definitely done laps where I've taken corners much, much quicker that I normally would and got through fine - plenty of grip, bike completely stable. Really need to focus on backing myself more.

[Mstevo]

Chubb... dont worry about times... they will happen...Just race !!! best way to not worry about crashing, even when you do

yep don't worry about times or places, just get aggressive about getting in front of the bike that's in front of you and just keep doing that for every rider infront of you

also work on qualifying at the pace you race so you can start any race with the guys who are your pace

like marshy said racing is just as much mental as it is physical, although being physically fit will allow your brain to concentrate more on your racing

[Nelso]

I'm in for this now. I just need a clearance from the specialist tomorrow and a bit of race tape for the wrist and I should be ok. I haven't been on the bike since the 4 hour, so I'll be a bit nervous..... and a bit slow, but hopefully I can still have some fun.

[Marshy]

I'm in for this now. I just need a clearance from the specialist tomorrow and a bit of race tape for the wrist and I should be ok. I haven't been on the bike since the 4 hour, so I'll be a bit nervous..... and a bit slow, but hopefully I can still have some fun.

Awesome mate, great to hear!! Looking forward to seeing you on track again :thumb:

[Negrogrande]

I will be down on Sunday taking happy snaps now.

does my ARDC pass get me in the gate?

[Marshy]

I will be down on Sunday taking happy snaps now.

does my ARDC pass get me in the gate?

Yes :peace:

[dan]

Case protectors on RHS are mandatory right? Going in tonight to do my checklist. I know I have one on the left but not on the right. Mother fucker.

[dan]

Also, radiator overflow bottle. Mine is currently in stock position on the LHS. I seem to remember the general consensus being it is fine to leave it like that?

[chubb]

Case savers are mandatory for anything that can come in contact with the ground that houses oil etc behind that to my knowledge anyway..

[senator8]

Case protectors on RHS are mandatory right? Going in tonight to do my checklist. I know I have one on the left but not on the right. Mother fucker.

If you get stuck Dan, I have one on the spare motor. Could post to you or bring with me.

Just leave the overflow for now. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/28/semaja5y.jpg

[Marshy]

Just leave the overflow for now.

+1. Just be sure you are only running water in the radiator(distilled/demineralised for the good of your engine, but tap is fine if you're gonna change it again afterwards).

[dan]

If you get stuck Dan, I have one on the spare motor. Could post to you or bring with me.

Just leave the overflow for now. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/28/semaja5y.jpg

Cheers mate. Will have a suss over the course of the day and give you an answer tomorrow!

Only have water in it anyway so all good there.

[Phat3R]

Mail man just came ... by ... Honda RJays paperwork and tickets have arrived.

[dan]

I just noticed that my shark fin was missing. Marshy do you sell them / have any in stock?

[Phat3R]

Dan I'm probably wrong but I don't think Marshy stocks them ... but low and behold Wetty must be psychic :) ... because he just mentioned on nswr4ts that he has a few left in stock.

I'm just waiting for Eastcoast wreckers to work out a price to overnight a front fairing stay, hopefully that's it for bits ... until we find the next broken thing!

[Phat3R]

I'm just waiting for Eastcoast wreckers to work out a price to overnight a front fairing stay, hopefully that's it for bits ... until we find the next broken thing!

And I spoke too soon ... a late discovery that wrong part was on right model bike ... faaaark ... :frusty:

[dan]

Dan I'm probably wrong but I don't think Marshy stocks them ... but low and behold Wetty must be psychic :) ... because he just mentioned on nswr4ts that he has a few left in stock.

I'm just waiting for Eastcoast wreckers to work out a price to overnight a front fairing stay, hopefully that's it for bits ... until we find the next broken thing!

Cool just shot marshy a SMS TXT if he doesn't have them I'll hit up wetty.

[dan]

If you get stuck Dan, I have one on the spare motor. Could post to you or bring with me.

Just leave the overflow for now. http://img.tapatalk.com/d/13/10/28/semaja5y.jpg

Hey mate if this is still cool (and will fit my k3 600) I'd love to pinch it off you for the weekend. These bikes are certainly not the easiest to get bits for at short notice :(

[dan]

Would something like a NRC case cover satisfy the regulations or does it have to be a separate protector? I think the NRC ones are a heavy duty replacement rather than extra layer

[senator8]

The NRC ones are fine. That's what I have on the Suzuki. Not cheap though, and heavy.

[mercho]

Would something like a NRC case cover satisfy the regulations or does it have to be a separate protector? I think the NRC ones are a heavy duty replacement rather than extra layer

I had the NRC ones on my old R6 and they were fine, never had an issue at scrutineering.. They are about twice as thick and good quality too...

[dan]

Definitely not cheap - quoted $220 for RHS. They are my last resort. Found a set in the states for $75 that I'll get for the future I reckon (if still available).

[chubb]

GB racing covers if you can get them to suit your bike.. best case savers ive usef so far

[Negrogrande]

GB racing covers if you can get them to suit your bike.. best case savers ive usef so far

+1

[Phat3R]

I'm sure Wetty mentioned that you can just stick some sort of protection on the stock covers ... or was I hallucinating ... ???

I went Woodcraft with the stainless steel slider that connects from inside, one was already on RHS, LHS had some cheap Chinese things that had already taken a beating, so got the matching other WC side off eBay.

[dan]

I started knocking up a shark fin this evening and gave it a coat of paint. Pretty basic; L shaped bit of metal in rattle can black. Gotta keep the theme!

[dan]

I'm sure Wetty mentioned that you can just stick some sort of protection on the stock covers ... or was I hallucinating ... ???

I went Woodcraft with the stainless steel slider that connects from inside, one was already on RHS, LHS had some cheap Chinese things that had already taken a beating, so got the matching other WC side off eBay.

As long as it's bolted on I think it's fine. Rick is sending me one so hopefully that fits otherwise I'll look at knocking something up tomorrow night.

[shippy__]

It also goes up on the st george website a couple of days before. Just to build the suspense.... ;)

stops people from braking into garages to see what their running

[Medic!]

So Ive discovered anyone racing needs to supply a marshal to be in the points.. I'm not attached to anyone yet for either day so if anyone wants to put me on their paperwork let me know.

[Saturnalian]

So Ive discovered anyone racing needs to supply a marshal to be in the points.. I'm not attached to anyone yet for either day so if anyone wants to put me on their paperwork let me know.

Are you out there flagging for the weekend anyway ?
Your awesome photo shoot for Dad of the year would suggest so....
PM me your details and i'll put you down.

J.

[Saturnalian]

I make up for my lack of corner speed in all other corners in turn 1 :)

I think T1 is the only one i've got any corner speed in....

[BoB]

I think T1 is the only one i've got any corner speed in....

is that grass tracking corner speed jamie ...

Dont forget this weekend jamie , at the end of the straight , stop looking at the lap timer and remember to turn in...(thats a left turn).

[senator8]

is that grass tracking corner speed jamie ...

Dont forget this weekend jamie , at the end of the straight , stop looking at the lap timer and remember to turn in...(thats a left turn).

Ooooh! Jamie, Bob's dishing it out. Better show him who's boss out there ;)
Don't be too hard Rob. Jamie's supplying the coffee machine this weekend. Mines got to stay home.

[senator8]

So Ive discovered anyone racing needs to supply a marshal to be in the points.. I'm not attached to anyone yet for either day so if anyone wants to put me on their paperwork let me know.

What a nice fellow :)

[Saturnalian]

I'm still not home until tomorrow night.

So depending on how long it takes to get all of the cobwebs off the bike and evict the small family of starlings living under the seat i'll see you bright and early (Hah!) boys no Saturday morning.
New tyres arrived today, they look like the right ones in the photo's from the missus.
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Lets just see how your race starts go before you get too carried away BoB....!!!

[BoB]

Ooooh! Jamie, Bob's dishing it out. Better show him who's boss out there ;)
Don't be too hard Rob. Jamie's supplying the coffee machine this weekend. Mines got to stay home.

i'll bring the fridge , do i need some milk too?

[Medic!]

Are you out there flagging for the weekend anyway ?
Your awesome photo shoot for Dad of the year would suggest so....
PM me your details and i'll put you down.

J.
Yep both days. I've been doing it for years even a couple of Wakey ones for PCRA.

I never knew about this requirement for racers. Shame for anyone who needed a name in the past. Even dragged a few non riding mates along but none have stuck with it. Good being two up as I can take more pics..
Got my ticket and paperwork this arv.
Pm sent. Is name and phone all you need?

[senator8]

i'll bring the fridge , do i need some milk too?
So long as it's not soy or skim, that skinny people drink. I need to maintain my weight, as my last excuse.

[Saturnalian]

Yep both days. I've been doing it for years even a couple of Wakey ones for PCRA.

I never knew about this requirement for racers. Shame for anyone who needed a name in the past. Even dragged a few non riding mates along but none have stuck with it. Good being two up as I can take more pics..
Got my ticket and paperwork this arv.
Pm sent. Is name and phone all you need?

All good. I forwarded your info on to Jan.

Cheers,

Jamie

[Saturnalian]

So long as it's not soy or skim, that skinny people drink. I need to maintain my weight, as my last excuse.

Smoke cigarettes..... You know it works for me.

[Little Mick]

So long as it's not soy or skim, that skinny people drink. I need to maintain my weight, as my last excuse.

have some skim for me... hoping to drop in on sat morning for moral support while yungun does exam in north ryde..

[dan]

Skim milk and ciggies over here.

So, everyone needs to supply a Marshall to be in the points. It's my first race does it matter (the points, that is)?

Both days or just the one? Sorry I'm sure this info is somewhere. Is everyone supplying one? Wouldn't the be a hundred Marshall's then?

[Saturnalian]

The Marshall rule applies to St George series points over the year. Your points and prize pool for the individual rd's aren't' affected

[chubb]

Skim milk and ciggies over here.

So, everyone needs to supply a Marshall to be in the points. It's my first race does it matter (the points, that is)?

Both days or just the one? Sorry I'm sure this info is somewhere. Is everyone supplying one? Wouldn't the be a hundred Marshall's then?

It wouldn't matter for you as you won't be getting points to win the series.. kinda have to do every round..

[Medic!]

Wouldn't the be a hundred Marshall's then?

They wish! lol.

[dan]

Ok cool. I'll have to start working on someone to help me out next year then!

Thanks!

[dan]

They wish! lol.

haha true, I've been around organised sport for long enough to know better

[Medic!]

Ok cool. I'll have to start working on someone to help me out next year then!

Thanks!
Hopefully not me. I plan on being out there with you.:party: And get meself some of these.:first::second::third:

[Medic!]

I'm still not home until tomorrow night.

So depending on how long it takes to get all of the cobwebs off the bike and evict the small family of starlings living under the seat i'll see you bright and early (Hah!) boys no Saturday morning.
New tyres arrived today, they look like the right ones in the photo's from the missus.
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Pretty! Are they wets?

[Saturnalian]

Dance floor I think

[Jashdown]

Stupid question but are the grid spots numbered? I'd assume so, otherwise out of 40 riders, it would be nearly impossible to find your spot!

Also, racing numbers... I'm under the impression that you need to have one located on the rear of the bike, is this correct? If so, which way do the numbers have to face? Do you have to be able thread them correctly from behind, or from in front? And finally, can these numbers be bought off anyone on the day?

Oh and one more, the bracket for the transponder... Do they look like a go pro mount? I have what looks to be a go pro mount at the front of my tank, my bike was raced last year so I assume it needed a bracket then. Just wondering in case I have to pay the $15 for the bracket on the day.

[Marshy]

Stupid question but are the grid spots numbered? I'd assume so, otherwise out of 40 riders, it would be nearly impossible to find your spot!

Also, racing numbers... I'm under the impression that you need to have one located on the rear of the bike, is this correct? If so, which way do the numbers have to face? Do you have to be able thread them correctly from behind, or from in front? And finally, can these numbers be bought off anyone on the day?

Oh and one more, the bracket for the transponder... Do they look like a go pro mount? I have what looks to be a go pro mount at the front of my tank, my bike was raced last year so I assume it needed a bracket then. Just wondering in case I have to pay the $15 for the bracket on the day.

The grid spots are numbered, although a bit hard to see until you are right on top of them. There are numbered witches hats indicating the Rows on the right-hand side of the track (just on the grass). Use these to aim for your row, then look closely for the grid numbers.

But I always write down my grid spot on some white duct tape on my tank, and I make a note of where that spot is relative to the track. Eg, for P12, I work out that it's 3rd row, closest to the inside/pit wall. Or P14 is 4th row, second spot in from the grass. And I write them on the tank as:

P12 R3 --> 1 (first from the left)
P14 R4 <-- 2 (2nd in from the right).

Or whatever system works for you. Remember that cars grid up with pole position on the inside of the track for turn 1, whereas for bikes pole is always on the outside of turn 1. So at the creek, position 1 is on the right-hand side of the grid. At the Island, it's on the left, because turn 1 goes the other way.

Race numbers are available from the race secretary when you sign on, or from Craig White's Bridgestone truck (they are much cheaper from Jan at race control).

The transponder bracket is specific for m/c transponders, and is usually cable-tied to the top of the left fork leg, between the two triples. It will say AMB or MyLaps on it, and have a big R-clip at the top to hold the transponder in. They look nothing like a go-pro mount. Just have $15 ready.

Here, like this:
http://www.karts.com.au/images/AMB%20BRACKET.jpg

[chubb]

Worth paying the $15 to get the bracket

[Marshy]

You need the bracket. They charge you $675 if you lose or damage the transponder, so for the sake of $15, don't mess around with the wrong mount. Also, if you don't mount them in the correct position, they can not pick up your laps.

[Little Mick]

not worth the hassle...get the bracket.. when you install the transponder, also check to see it doesnt interfere with steering motion...

[Jashdown]

Cheers for the info. Will definitely be getting the bracket. Was just curious if the plastic clip on the tank was the bracket or not :D

[Medic!]

Re numbers
In the supplemental regs that came with your paperwork there was mention of making sure could been seen clearly on left or right depending on the circuit you are racing on. If doing both obviously both sides. I know there's regs for that anyway but they seemed to be making a point of it in the supp regs. Make sure all is good cause I think scrutineering will be hectic this weekend and you don't want want to miss your race for something silly causing you to be checked more than once. I've never raced so don't know how strict they are and I may be talking shit.

[Mstevo]

Beauty, just received a message we can drop off the bike between 7-9pm tonight
perfect timing, on the way from Canberra

[senator8]

Just to clarify. You can drop your trailer in garages 1-18. You cannot unpack and there is no security. They are going to fit as many trailers as they can into those allocated garages.


Hi All



Sydney Motor Sport Park (SMSP) is allowing any interstate or long distances travellers that are participating in the St George MCC race meeting this weekend to Bump In (drop off) their trailers on Friday night if they wish to.



WHEN CAN YOU BUMP IN: Friday night 1st November between the hours of 7.00pm to 9.00pm only.



WHERE CAN YOU LEAVE YOUR TRAILER: Garages 1-18

They will be locked up overnight, but there is NO overnight security.



You cannot unpack or set up for the weekend as you won’t be in your allocated garage & they will be jamming as many trailers as possible in these garages.



When you get to the SMSP Gates tell Security what you’re doing & they’ll let you in.



Regards

Jan Blizzard

St George MCC Inc

Have a great weekend.

[Mr.Ed]

not worth the hassle...get the bracket.. when you install the transponder, also check to see it doesnt interfere with steering motion...

This!!!!

[Marshy]

Race day!!

[chubb]

Good ruck to all those who are racing!

[fitzy]

good luck to all out there today and tomorrow .. shame about the off today ;( positive note good to see some familiar faces out ;)

[Kaneg]

Just heard that there were 4 riders taken to hospital due to a crash, hope no-one is badly injured,

[Marshy]

What an awesome day!!! Great racing, and good weather (although it was pretty warm). Big turnout, but they were very organised and it all went very smoothly. There was a big crash in the first race of the day (BEARS), but apart from some broken bones, apparently everyone was ok. Which wasn't what we first thought when 5 ambulances, the helicopter, and 5 cop cars showed up. An hour delay (at lunchtime - perfect!), and racing resumed.

So all you first-timers... what did you think?!?

[BoB]

Had a ball out there today, it was quite warm and doing 2 classes in 600 has drained me .. but im in one piece and didnt come off so thats a good thing.
Dan stop passing me will you...