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Linden
28-10-2016, 04:09 PM
Won an auction today and next week will collect a new toy ... bit soon to get her ready for new weekend BUT maybe (no key and not heard her run yet)
1885
plan is to make her look like
1886
ie 900ss motor in 620 Monster Frame
But for the 5/6 she'd have to be an SS but I don't have any race glass ... it long shot but does anyone have (or know of) any I could borrow other option is to try her out as a 1/2 fared version :)
Better photos and build to follow
Slumpage
28-10-2016, 06:31 PM
Looks good
Marshy
28-10-2016, 06:47 PM
Congrats mate :)
Mr.Ed
28-10-2016, 11:05 PM
I'm gonna guess that this very much interests you then!
http://forums.13x.com/index.php?threads/2000-ducati-900ssi-e-track-bike-part-out-ohlins-marchesini-brembo-braketech-more.336465/
Linden
29-10-2016, 06:08 AM
I'm gonna guess that this very much interests you then!
http://forums.13x.com/index.php?threads/2000-ducati-900ssi-e-track-bike-part-out-ohlins-marchesini-brembo-braketech-more.336465/
unfortunately that will be a bit late getting here for next week end ... as to the build this thing was got for the engine ONLY (really) I've got a complete monster rolling frame (actually about 3 of them) I'm going to try an run it as is to see how I like it but will probably drop back to the 696 for the races - may even come down on Friday but will be a bit of a rolling chicane
Linden
02-11-2016, 04:57 AM
Pick it up yesterday ... unfortunately "bridge to far for this week end" ... bring on 2017 however
Linden
03-11-2016, 02:39 PM
Ripped off all the road gear today ... some salvageable stuff - just (it 14 years old after all) ... Ohlins rear shock ... nice but it and one of the fork legs is weeping badly
Have firmed in deciding (despite pleas to leave it an SS) to build it up as a Monster so shock is wasted to me ... anyone fit and flexible who wants a F3 or F5 Bears bike let me know as if I can find a donor engine (or maybe throw in one of my spare 700s) it will be a cheap entry level toy
Next to do is put an old engine in it to keep it a rolling frame and get the 900 motor worked over (new rings / no base gaskets / new clutch (maybe) / lighten flywheel)
Linden
20-12-2016, 12:45 PM
Started motor work ... unfortunately ...1897
And the clutch is worse -
Linden
19-01-2017, 05:53 PM
After a replacement piston and clutch started putting it together
1901
see the shiny barrel
1902
It rolls :)
Marshy
20-01-2017, 07:33 AM
It's missing a radiator.......
Linden
20-01-2017, 09:50 AM
kind of got one ... but for oil ... new and exciting really
Fingers crossed that the 2006 (620M) wiring loom and ECU will work with a 2001SS Engine and Injectors or it's back to an SS frame
Just got to do a "The Castle" shuffle to get the space to work on it - 10 in play Motorcycles at the moment (and enough bits an bob for 3 or 4 more) :( really must learn to let go...
Linden
29-01-2017, 11:44 AM
What a bitch
1) the heat ...
2) bloody hell figuring out which bits I want to put with what eg exhaust is being a bitch cos I'm using different manifold clamps I'm using part of the thread that's got 12 years of rust and crud
3) getting throttle bodies off donor meant drilling out a stripped ECU mount bolt
4) something not 100% with rear suspension was locked solid first time it when together (done heaps of these)
5) work bench has another 1/2 done bike on it so working on the floor and I'm killing my back
Having fun but doubting EC on the 11th at this point
Linden
29-01-2017, 05:34 PM
What a bitch
6) dropped a allen key into swingarm
Linden
02-02-2017, 04:11 PM
Ok got it to fire up ... so no ECU / key / Dash issues and all the important wiring is intact now just need to fit everything else :)
Linden
07-02-2017, 11:37 AM
1924Bridge too far for this weekend ... ECU map issues :( runs very lean :)
Had to make a tank bracket which is a bit scary as it indicates that the frame is not 100% (but the tank is from a different model)1925
Marshy
07-02-2017, 01:03 PM
Sooooo close!
Linden
07-02-2017, 06:24 PM
Sooooo close!
Was seriously still on it until I discovered that my "map" supplier and I were on different pages ... getting closer now but still very iffy ... BUT seriously still needed to test it and Friday is just tooooo damn hot
Might plan for ride day early March and maybe Broadford meeting 1 April before Mount Gambier at Easter
That said it sounds evil ... suspect 2/3 normal fuel to air is partial the issue
Turbo
07-02-2017, 09:19 PM
Damn, Linden! That's a bit unlucky.
Hope you get it out there soon.
Linden
05-03-2017, 04:00 PM
ITS ALIVE - the FrankenCati lives - hereby known as "Frankie" should be down on Thursday or Friday ... maybe just riding around in the pits
worked out there are over 5 different bikes (mainly monsters :) ) in this thing
Marshy
05-03-2017, 08:31 PM
Good news mate. I think..... I'm not 100% sure more Ducatis is a good thing ;)
Linden
05-03-2017, 10:23 PM
Good news mate. I think..... I'm not 100% sure more Ducatis is a good thing ;)
Says the man with how many APEs
Linden
10-03-2017, 04:45 PM
It lives and has done laps ... off to Broadford for some lie detecting
Turbo
10-03-2017, 09:08 PM
Well done, Linden! Sounded great out there today.
Linden
11-03-2017, 12:44 PM
Was great to "Finally" get it on track. Once it's sorted (suspension) I think it will be heaps faster than my 696 mainly due to the extra reach to the bars ...
Going to have to spend some time playing around because when you compare the 2 bikes the 900's wheel base is (neutral -> rearish axle position) about 2 cm shorter but the reach to the bars feels about 10-15cm longer might have to look at a modified seat on the 700 as the extra reach was nice ... will know more about the feel after Broadford and MacPark both in April where I plan to run both bikes in different classes
ACTUALLY - the extra reach is comfy but less change of direction leverage ... maybe mid way is the answer
Linden
19-04-2017, 05:00 PM
At Broadford
2182
At MacPark
2183
Well what can we say - MacPark over Easter
Friday was meant to be Suspension/Gearing setup with a couple of maintenance jobs for RatBear
BUT
1) LiFePo battery that fail at Broadford didn't come back to useful so swapped to spare lead acid
2) Tank quick fits failed when returning from practice session ... raw fuel pumping on to exhaust
3) fixed one but the other failed 3 corners out in next session - temp fixed both with cable ties - lasted weekend like that
4) While stuffing around with Franki we set the ride height on RatBear only to strip the top shock mount (BUGGER ALL TORQUE honestly) BIG thanks to Shorty from MacPark who remade the mount in 1 hour
5) First session out for RatBear turn 1 RH footpeg mount bolt sheared (HT)
WOW Friday over no setup and only a couple of serious laps - and this doesn't sound much but was asking around for spare bike at one stage
Saturday
Entered in C20 and BEARS F5 with RatBear as cover in Bears and in TwinSprints
We did all 6 quallies the fat bloke was stuffed and Franki had not beaten RatBear last year time (1:25) but was a touch quicker that RatBear (1:27 vs 1:28) on the day so RatBear was parked at lunch for the rest of the weekend
C20 r1 chased an MT09 (new to the track) and got consistancy and confidence
Bears r1 ran away with from ScottyB with a PB 1.26flatish on lap 2 settled for 3rd on lap 4 after spotting ScottyB across turn 1 and DeanY was pulling away (DavidA was a speck in the distance)
C20 r2 (and the rest just played around with stuff at the back of the grid and got track time)
Sunday
Bears r2 was to be first race of Sunday and so made the big mistake of the weekend and swapped rear tyre (and changed gearing 1 tooth at rear) - BUT had to go from 180/55 to a more std 160/60 - only a double lap warmup to the grid ... We felt horrid - tipping into the fast old turn one was yuck lost 1.5sec (best 1.27.3) and SB did a 1.24.9 PB so 4th - lots of head scratching RatBears was getting keen
Bears r3 same again - felt a bit better and a bit quicker (reversed gearing change) but still off the pace and SB blasted past on lap 4 and left me behind
Had some time over lunch and decided that we would do one of the experiments that DIDN'T happen Friday - so dropped forks 6mm - still hadn't clicked yet as to the issue just trying stuff
Yeah Har - SB got away better this time and for the first time was only 4th at 4 - BUT we were on it and could see spots we were faster stalked for 4 laps and on the 5 got the draft and passed into old turn 1 - on the 6 and final lap we went in to old turn 1 only 2m off inside of track to block any up the inside overtakes - claimed the 3rd and therefore 3rd for the round (70pt equal with SB; DY 80pt and DA 100pt)
After presentations we realized (this is despite fixing the exact same issue on RatBear) that the tyre change had dropped the rear about 1cm ... so maybe 6mm on the forks is NOT enough
Other issues
1) down changes sometimes missing lever (different offset to RatBear)
2) fuel surge (we think)/stutter off sharpish right handers - bloody annoying
3) Had to swap a warped disk
4) Lost chain C Clip
5) Missing some down changes due to differences in peg / lever offset between Franki and RatBear
Morgan Park here we come...
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