View Full Version : St George Rd3 at PHILLIP ISLAND!!!!!!!!!
Carl-52
16-02-2016, 11:53 AM
So for the un-initiated at PI... what farken works and what doesnt...??? Tyres, compounds, gearing, suspension settings. Whats a good time for us club guys, which way does it go?
Using the bridgestone V02 front and V01 Rear on the R6... Soft front, med rear? Or go Med on both? 15/43 ish gearing? Longer wheelbase?
Thinking i might give this round a go since its PI with everyone we know. Uni exams can wait and move.
:D
Binksy
16-02-2016, 12:06 PM
I always did 46's which wasn't great. 15 45 but was perhaps a tad too long. No real reason to hunt for a long wheelbase I wouldn't think. I always ran soft bridgestone front and hard rear (back when it was the R04 and R09)
Although this all means nothing cause I haven't gone there during walrus hunting season before :P
windy
16-02-2016, 01:15 PM
I am the same mate. My approach was going to be rock up and enjoy the ride haha
Carl-52
16-02-2016, 01:29 PM
Nah man, if im traveling that far spending that much i need the lap record... :P lol, yep same here windy, but i would also like to be ultra prepared without any horrible surprises.
Mr.Ed
16-02-2016, 02:08 PM
What are the dates on said event?
windy
16-02-2016, 02:09 PM
June long weekend
Mr.Ed
16-02-2016, 02:25 PM
Oh... I see. Thanks for that, googling that on the phone is not best way to find sanity
Turbo
16-02-2016, 03:16 PM
i would also like to be ultra prepared without any horrible surprises.
First one is a right! ;)
Carl-52
16-02-2016, 03:20 PM
1670
zooker
16-02-2016, 07:20 PM
I have mine geared for about 260 odd km/h top speed (according to gearingcommander.com). Fastest I ever got was 252, but that was with the mother of all tailwinds directly down the straight (kinda terrifying actually hey Binksy :P ). Normally only get about 240ish top speed. Seems to work pretty well around the track as far as gear changes go. I think 15/46 will get your model R6 close to what mine is.
Binksy
16-02-2016, 07:56 PM
Yea that 280 odd into t1 was quite unexpected. Especially on the first lap of the day!!!
Nearly crapped myself when I realised how fast I was going through T1!
Helmet
16-02-2016, 09:01 PM
So who's making the trip down? Even if the weather is shite it'll still be amazing!
Carl-52
16-02-2016, 09:07 PM
Im running 15/45 for the creek so im guessing i need to go longer at Pi by a few teeth minimum. I get 245 at the creek top speed via speedangle.
zooker
16-02-2016, 09:37 PM
Im running 15/45 for the creek so im guessing i need to go longer at Pi by a few teeth minimum. I get 245 at the creek top speed via speedangle.
You'd think so, but not the case. I run the same gearing at PI and EC and it's pretty well perfect. PI straight is shorter than EC but you come on a bit quicker. Ends up as a pretty similar top speed for a 600. I reckon you're good with 15/45
Binksy
17-02-2016, 07:15 AM
Yea I'd be running 15 / 45 unless your on an absolute rocket like Rob's bike. Maybe take a spare sprocket or too but I was fairly sure that gives you a top speed around 260. Especially if your running a v01 as you get even longer gearing that normal.
Carl-52
17-02-2016, 08:12 AM
So you guys reckon dropping a few teeth would be too long? How much shorter is the straight than the creek? And you are getting onto the straight in what top end of 3rd or bottom of 4th?
Binksy
17-02-2016, 08:53 AM
I think its more that an R6's terminal velocity isn't very far past 260. I was going onto the straight lower down in 5th I think, getting 6th before start finish line. Never got to the limiter.
Even if you look up trap speeds of aussie supersport guys only the top guys are consistantly breaking the 260 mark and their going through T12 SOOOOO fast! Think I was getting just about 250 at best but my R6 was pretty stock and as you know there was a little drag and additional weight in there...
Id maybe throw an extra sprocket or 2 into the kit bag but I'd certainly start at 15 45 untill you start really limiter bashing.
Carl-52
17-02-2016, 09:06 AM
Alrighty, cool. I forgot to say my bike makes 123 hp so i may need longer gearing... Oh wait thats only in my dreams :D Psi for V01s???
Turbo
17-02-2016, 10:11 AM
I think its more that an R6's terminal velocity isn't very far past 260.
Hahahah, yes!
+1 for the 15/45 combo. It was right on the money for me.
Carl-52
17-02-2016, 10:18 AM
And that gearing is ok for the corners too? Not inbetween gears on the long ones?
Marshy
17-02-2016, 10:35 AM
Yep, I stuck with EC gearing (15/45) on the R6 and it was perfect. On the Aprilia, I go 1 tooth down on the rear so as not to sit on the limiter. But I've also just run it with EC gearing, and it's fine. Depends a bit on headwind versus tailwind.
On the R6, don't change anything. Wheelbase, gearing, even suspension settings are fine. PI is billiard-table smooth, so handing bumps isn't an issue (and handling bumps is a good reason to change settings, normally). There's only 1 massive stop, at T4, so you can actually run a softer front spring if you so desire, but again, if you leave it as-is, it'll be close to perfect!
Carl-52
17-02-2016, 10:58 AM
Sounds good... Ok how about tyre compounds for the track surface and temperatures?
Turbo
17-02-2016, 01:38 PM
Sounds good... Ok how about tyre compounds for the track surface and temperatures?
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Mr.Ed
17-02-2016, 02:06 PM
Imagine having to balance that wheel
Marshy
17-02-2016, 02:47 PM
:rofl: :pound: :laugh:
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chubb
17-02-2016, 06:53 PM
Mmmm PI is so close....
jaswib
18-02-2016, 09:10 AM
Mmm so keen thinking i might hang around for the track day on the monday after the old boy wants to get his Bmw 1200 Gsa out on the track that will be a funny sight.
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Nelso
18-02-2016, 08:11 PM
The only changes I made were one tooth smaller on the rear and one turn of preload off the front spring and one click of rebound. After my times dropped and I started braking harder into turn four, I added half a turn of preload back into the front end. As Marshy said, you can run the front a tad softer, but you don't have to and I don't think I needed to drop the tooth on the rear sprocket either.
As for tyres, I ran a KR106 on the front and a Pirelli SCX on the rear and they worked well. I got 9 sessions out of each rear tyre, flipping them after 5 sessions, and they had awesome grip. If I was running VO2s, I would guess that they would be the mediums, but Rancel and Marshy will have a better idea on what to run with the Bridgies as they run them, so listen to whatever they say.;)
zooker
18-02-2016, 09:06 PM
I ran the Med V01's in November and got puuuuurfect wear. Winter might change that a bit, so I might try running the soft rear
chubb
19-02-2016, 07:56 AM
Definitely for PI in June I would go a front soft V02 with Bridgestone as you have high speeds down the straight into cold winter air and there is no load on the right hand side of the tyre.. I would also go out at the very last second before pit exit closes and make the most of the opening outlap to keep heat in the tyres, else it just cools down and will be hard to get heat back in the tyre.
If you can really really really keep the heat in go med rear.. else go soft..
Stu23
19-02-2016, 08:11 AM
thanks :) good info
Carl-52
19-02-2016, 08:26 AM
Sweet, think im all sorted now, cheers guys. Gotta organise accomodation and travel
Builda
22-03-2016, 07:40 PM
From Jan at St George MCC
Have just be advised that there is definitely a practice day at Phillip Island on Friday 10th June.
Metal-Man
22-03-2016, 09:13 PM
From Jan at St George MCC
Have just be advised that there is definitely a practice day at Phillip Island on Friday 10th June.
wooooohoooooo
looks like im going a day earlier
windy
23-03-2016, 05:08 AM
From Jan at St George MCC
Have just be advised that there is definitely a practice day at Phillip Island on Friday 10th June.
Awesome.
Ill leave a day earlier for sure. Are they going to announce it at all so people are aware early?
jaswib
23-03-2016, 05:54 AM
Yay sounds like more money but jeez i need the track time there.
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windy
23-03-2016, 06:37 AM
Yay sounds like more money but jeez i need the track time there.
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Yep. I just changed my accommodation booking... Need the practice.
Metal-Man
23-03-2016, 09:32 AM
Are they going to announce it at all so people are aware early?
Nooooooo ... less bikes on track = more hot laps :D
Leezx10r
23-03-2016, 11:52 AM
That's great news
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zoidberg
23-03-2016, 06:33 PM
Fantastic! More time spent on that track is a great thing. Just hoping it's not covered in black ice! Do the MOMS allow for ice spikes in slicks?
chicken16
23-03-2016, 07:01 PM
Just hoping it's not covered in black ice! Do the MOMS allow for ice spikes in slicks?
Still warmer than Wakefield Park in June, just more rain.
Builda
05-04-2016, 12:59 PM
Hi, As you guys are aware St George club is coming down on the 11th and 12th of June, Jan mentioned there is a private
practice day on the Friday 10th. Just wondering if this is true and when it will be offical.
Regards Peter
Hi Peter,
Yes you are correct, there will be a Practice day on the 10th June. Entry forms are not available as yet. I will email you one as soon as they are available.
Please do not hesitate to contact us here at the circuit should you have any further queries.
Kind regards,
Michelle Matthews | Administration Assistant/Receptionist
PI Operations | Phillip Island Grand Prix Circuit
P +61 3 5952 2710 | f +61 3 5952 3160
e info@phillipislandcircuit.com.au | www.phillipislandcircuit.com.au
Back Beach Rd, Cowes, Victoria, Australia | RMB 500GP, Cowes, 3922
Binksy
05-04-2016, 01:06 PM
Had been wondering about the talk of the private practice day. Good on ya for checking up on it! :thumb:
zoidberg
05-04-2016, 01:19 PM
Awesome! Thanks for that info mate.
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chubb
05-04-2016, 05:20 PM
So is it gonna be 5 lap races or is there gonna be TT races similar to Pirelli road race series
Binksy
16-04-2016, 05:38 PM
Entries are out. Not sure if I'm just blind but can't seem to see how many races we get? Anyone know?
I'll be flying down on the Thursday night and back on Sunday night and will be hiring a car from the air port. If anyone wants to share the car/accommodation (San Remo) let me know. May also be able to organise bike transport through Motoracer AU if you need it.
chubb
19-04-2016, 08:41 PM
Entries are out. Not sure if I'm just blind but can't seem to see how many races we get? Anyone know?
Looks like 5 lap races 3 events per day per class
Binksy
20-04-2016, 09:04 AM
Looks like 5 lap races 3 events per day per class
See the way I read it was the entry form says each class gets 3 races per round. And the entry form says its only 1 round over both days.. Which if the entire trip is only for 3 races over 2 days that'd be kinda shit. I'm glad I can cross enter.
simonr
20-04-2016, 09:46 AM
See the way I read it was the entry form says each class gets 3 races per round. And the entry form says its only 1 round over both days.. Which if the entire trip is only for 3 races over 2 days that'd be kinda shit. I'm glad I can cross enter.
I read it the exact same way too Binksy, I think it will be 3 races each day though, probably just misworded.
I don't see why they wouldn't get through the same number of races as they do at the other rounds
Marshy
20-04-2016, 01:38 PM
They have a long history of poor wording on entry forms. There'll be the usual amount of races.
Binksy
22-04-2016, 12:23 PM
Answer received :)
"Hi Everyone,
Please accept our apologies for the typo in the Supp Regs for the upcoming Phillip Island round of the Honda RJays Clubman Championship Series on 11th & 12th June - as it is a 2 day meeting there will be 5 rounds not 3.
Looking forward to seeing you all there.
Regards
Zara Griffin
Membership Secretary
St George MCC"
jaswib
22-04-2016, 12:39 PM
All forms are in also cross entered.
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chicken16
03-05-2016, 05:45 PM
Forms are in. Only done 2 track days there in 2005 so expecting to be a back marker with the aim of not getting lapped!
Marshy
03-05-2016, 06:13 PM
You won't know what to do with yourself on a smooth surface!!
Leezx10r
03-05-2016, 06:35 PM
My forms are going in tomorrow, never ridden there before, and only been to watch SBK once years ago lol.
Very excited is an understatement!
chicken16
03-05-2016, 07:40 PM
You won't know what to do with yourself on a smooth surface!!
Don't tell me it's smoother that Wakefield? I won't know how to ride on it!
Marshy
03-05-2016, 07:43 PM
You can just bunny-hop the bike like a learner rider, quickly alternating the throttle and brake, and it'll feel like home, bumpy old Wakefield.
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chicken16
03-05-2016, 09:55 PM
You can just bunny-hop the bike like a learner rider, quickly alternating the throttle and brake, and it'll feel like home, bumpy old Wakefield.
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I'll give it a go - it sure won't make me any slower than I'm going to be! I'm not even going to bother putting on those lovely fairings I got from you before this one, just in case.
windy
04-05-2016, 07:05 AM
Forms are in.... Cant freaking wait!!!!! Never ridden there either
Marshy
04-05-2016, 10:44 AM
I'm not even going to bother putting on those lovely fairings I got from you before this one, just in case.
Pity! I'm looking forward to seeing them fitted up. The individual pieces look great, but it's always a bigger impact when they're fitted up :)
Binksy
06-05-2016, 04:16 PM
Entry forms in, we have a few spare beds in our place at Cowes if anyone needs a place to stay. Booked from Thursday night till Monday
Mickwitchy
08-05-2016, 09:58 AM
I'm booked now, too. Is everyone also doing the Friday practice?
zoidberg
08-05-2016, 09:59 AM
Forms in too! The cut off for practice isn't for a month or so. I'm doing it for sure though.
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simonr
09-05-2016, 08:58 AM
For those that have never been to the island is there a tyre changing service?
Binksy
09-05-2016, 09:41 AM
For those that have never been to the island is there a tyre changing service?
I talked to Craig from WRP on friday and he said he'd be there. Quite possibly on the practice day before hand too.
simonr
09-05-2016, 10:19 AM
thanks binksy
zoidberg
09-05-2016, 04:53 PM
That's great news! Thanks for that.
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Metal-Man
09-05-2016, 07:11 PM
For those that have never been to the island is there a tyre changing service?
get one of these an you won't have to rely on other people to do them :D
If anyone wants one, see links under video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkkd775BdVk
simonr
09-05-2016, 08:01 PM
get one of these an you won't have to rely on other people to do them :D
If anyone wants one, see links under video
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pkkd775BdVk
I have one, changing tyres sucks I have done my share
chicken16
10-05-2016, 11:31 AM
I'll happily pay $10 and get Craig White to fit the tyres up. I don't trust my abilities with that stuff apart from the fact it would take me over an hour to do it.
Mr.Ed
10-05-2016, 11:48 AM
^couldn't agree more... then again, I would like to learn to do it even if just to say "I can"
chicken16
10-05-2016, 01:55 PM
I've seen too many tyres destroyed by people tying to fit them themselves at the track. Even the Dunlop boys have had a few split on them while fitting, especially in winter. At least they will replace the tyre if they stuff it.
Binksy
26-05-2016, 02:19 PM
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=w2s2v2
Grids aren't looking too bad. Should be a good old laugh!
Turbo
26-05-2016, 02:40 PM
http://www.stgeorgemcc.com/pg_roadracepdf.php?id=w2s2v2
Grids aren't looking too bad. Should be a good old laugh!
YAY!! That's not a bad turnout at al!!
Can't wait to hear how you all go :)
zoidberg
26-05-2016, 02:56 PM
I'm the only d grade unlimited clubsport entered... participation ribbon first place! Hooray!
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Ruckos87
26-05-2016, 05:18 PM
Shit could be worth it for me, just to come 2nd
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zoidberg
26-05-2016, 05:18 PM
DO IT
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Ruckos87
26-05-2016, 05:58 PM
Id love to, but can't plus I'd like to ride there 1st.
How about I enter any you pick up my trophy for me?
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Nelso
26-05-2016, 07:46 PM
I'm the only d grade unlimited clubsport entered... participation ribbon first place! Hooray!
C and D grade used to get combined when there wasn't many D graders.
Binksy
26-05-2016, 07:51 PM
C and D grade used to get combined when there wasn't many D graders.
Judging by the entry list it is this time too
zoidberg
26-05-2016, 08:18 PM
I feel like that kid that just found out santa isn't real...
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Marshy
26-05-2016, 09:01 PM
I feel like that kid that just found out santa isn't real...
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zoidberg
26-05-2016, 09:02 PM
You're a nasty piece of work when you're drunk Marshy.
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Marshy
26-05-2016, 09:05 PM
You're a nasty piece of work when you're drunk Marshy.
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At least I shaved..... ;)
dadat178
08-06-2016, 08:39 PM
Does anyone know if we get the same garage for Friday practice as for Sat and Sun?
zoidberg
08-06-2016, 08:50 PM
I believe you have to book a garage, just ask for the same.number you are in?
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chicken16
08-06-2016, 09:18 PM
I believe you have to book a garage, just ask for the same.number you are in?
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Yeh, that's what they told me when I called up.
dadat178
08-06-2016, 09:46 PM
Thanks I will call them from the road tomorrow
zoidberg
08-06-2016, 09:49 PM
As will I. Can't bloody wait!
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simonr
09-06-2016, 02:57 PM
Any body flying in tomorrow and have a hire car arranged to share cost? I missed my ride down today
Leezx10r
09-06-2016, 04:34 PM
Does anyone know the schedule for tomorrow's private practice? PI admin said they were sending a email out, but not seen anything.
All I heard is that gates open at 0800.
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chicken16
09-06-2016, 08:15 PM
Does anyone know the schedule for tomorrow's private practice? PI admin said they were sending a email out, but not seen anything.
All I heard is that gates open at 0800.
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No, I didn't get an email either. 8am is a bit later than I'm used but a bit of extra sleep won't hurt!
Marshy
10-06-2016, 07:22 PM
OMG! Updates?!?!?
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zoidberg
10-06-2016, 07:50 PM
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Just busted out a 28, nothing special.
Was a fun day. The usual minds blown of first timers. Mostly fun all round. Cold, fast, started raining in the arvo. Still raining. 6yrs isn't too old for wets yeh?
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Mr.Ed
10-06-2016, 08:16 PM
Just busted out a 28, nothing special.
1753
Leezx10r
10-06-2016, 08:29 PM
OMG! Updates?!?!?
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What an epic track. Soooo much fun, and bloody fast!
Started off very steady, but got into some OK times, getting very close to them 49's.
Tomorrow looking a little damp, but Sunday will be dry an sweet!
It's just a shame it's at the end of the earth!
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zooker
10-06-2016, 09:16 PM
Freaking carnage. Bikes down everywhere all day. Cold but dry all day and track was grippy. Got a 46 so pretty stoked considering. Managed to pass Carl too which is all that matters :P
Turbo
10-06-2016, 09:16 PM
Yiewwww!! Sounds like you guys are having a blast. :thumb:
Totally agree, it's a shame it's so far away!!
All the best for tomorrow!! There's heaps of grip even in the wet tho!
Ruckos87
11-06-2016, 10:43 AM
Enjoy, even if it's wet I'm sooooo jealous
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Mr.Ed
11-06-2016, 02:15 PM
Enjoy, even if it's wet I'm sooooo jealous
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This!
zooker
11-06-2016, 02:23 PM
Advantage of it being wet is that you slide very well :P
Linden
11-06-2016, 04:06 PM
Advantage of it being wet is that you slide very well :P
According to MyLaps it all stopped at 12 ?????
zooker
12-06-2016, 05:07 AM
Nah they had issues with the website. Thry only got 7 races total completed in the day though. Race 1 stopped for me at T4. Lost the rear on the tiniest of throttle. Very weird and had me on the ground before I knew what happened. New brake lever and I was good to go for the next one though
Leezx10r
14-06-2016, 09:20 AM
What a three days at PI.
Friday morning cool windy weather, but dry. Had no idea where the track went as never been there before, but got a good idea by lunchtime.
Saturday, the heavens opened, an man it was cold wet and very windy! Never been out in the wet before, so a trip down the road on my bum was only a matter of time lol, but got back out and enjoyed the afternoon.
Sunday, wet start but turned out into a nice dry day, had a few issues but went well.
Overhaul had a great weekend, best track I have even been, will be back soon this year "when the weather warms up".
Great to catch up with the Mr's, tell some stories an some lies, but what a great weekend [emoji110]🏻
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Turbo
14-06-2016, 09:52 AM
Great pics, Lee!! Sounds like a fantastic weekend!
Well done on the trophy in some challenging conditions :thumb: :first:
zoidberg
14-06-2016, 10:14 AM
What a write up Lee. Captured it very nicely oldmate. Was an absolute pleasure to stay with you lot. That pic of you flying by pitwall is awesome!
How ridiculously fun is that track!
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Marshy
14-06-2016, 10:16 AM
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Awesome pics mate!!! Sounds like it was great fun. Although surely you've been racing long enough to realise which side of the grid marker to pull up on :laugh: :rofl: :pound:
zoidberg
14-06-2016, 10:18 AM
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Marshy
14-06-2016, 10:21 AM
And where are the vids, people?!? You've had enough processing time....
Leezx10r
14-06-2016, 10:47 AM
Awesome pics mate!!! Sounds like it was great fun. Although surely you've been racing long enough to realise which side of the grid marker to pull up on :laugh: :rofl: :pound:
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Carl-52
14-06-2016, 12:17 PM
hahaha I didnt run cameras friday or saturday and i damn well should have... I was the crash magnet. If you passed me you probably crashed right after (happened 4 times). Otherwise PI IS BLOODY UNREAL!!!!!!! got to 47s on the friday trying to learn everything i could. In the rain we were in the high 50s i believe until it dried out and we all shagged our wets (pics to come, or look at Stu's facebook). Still getting top 5 and top 7 place finishes in the wet which was awesome. Bloody Jas beat me tho fair and square in the rain. Sunday, man o man what can i say. Got down to a 45.1 in the 2nd race and made that consistent! Love flying through corners at full throttle just clicking up the gears. maybe touched my knee down 5 times all weekend since i was just trying to stay tucked in behind the screen to go faster. Top speed of 261 down the straight via the speedangle. and was up the front with the fast lads all weekend getting 5th place overall mostly. 2nd in 600cc C Grade and 3rd In Clubsport C grade with a bung race where i melted my rear wet to slick status. Damn good weekend even when trying to drift the wet bike around the last corner on a dry track with no tyre left flat track style hahahahaha. Absolutely tops weekend. Also scraped out both my footpeg and gear lever going around the last corner 4th gear pinned snicking 5th early to get some insane drive down the straight pulling in on fast bikes easy.
Binksy
14-06-2016, 01:00 PM
Had an alright time at the Island. Really enjoyed racing in the wet and was super gutted when clubsport 1000 race got red flagged and abandoned when I was in 2nd. However come sunday I struggled to get on pace in the dry and was well down on my normal times by about 3 seconds. Quite disappointed really.
Had a few good battles out there but came to a premature end when I misjudged what was going on ahead of me and ended up hitting Hamish on the exit of Honda. He stayed up which was good however I wasn't so lucky. Pretty bummed about it as for 3 years of racing I haven't cocked up that badly before but I suppose shit happens.
Will have full races up later however to appease Marshy I'll put the crash up :P.
Sound warning it seems stupidly loud! Ill fix it tonight hopefully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAINSThu8lA
Turbo
14-06-2016, 02:59 PM
Thanks for uploading, Binksy!!
Shame you came off, not the first ambitious manouver that's happened at Honda tho!! :lol:
zoidberg
14-06-2016, 06:56 PM
Had an alright time at the Island. Really enjoyed racing in the wet and was super gutted when clubsport 1000 race got red flagged and abandoned when I was in 2nd. However come sunday I struggled to get on pace in the dry and was well down on my normal times by about 3 seconds. Quite disappointed really.
Had a few good battles out there but came to a premature end when I misjudged what was going on ahead of me and ended up hitting Hamish on the exit of Honda. He stayed up which was good however I wasn't so lucky. Pretty bummed about it as for 3 years of racing I haven't cocked up that badly before but I suppose shit happens.
Will have full races up later however to appease Marshy I'll put the crash up :P.
Sound warning it seems stupidly loud! Ill fix it tonight hopefully
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAINSThu8lA
That's me on the yamaha! How did you fair in the crash? All okay? Much bike damage? Hope all good mate.
Nath
Binksy
14-06-2016, 07:09 PM
That's me on the yamaha! How did you fair in the crash? All okay? Much bike damage? Hope all good mate.
Nath
I have a bruise about the size of a 5c piece on my elbow hahaha. Nah im all good! Got marshy on the case sorting out most of the stuff I need, but yea its still kinda expensive :(.
Was really hopeful of getting passed you hahaha but you were going great in the dry!
Should have more footage of you ill hopefully get around to uploading the full race and others soon!
Marshy
14-06-2016, 07:34 PM
I was enjoying watching the action!! Looking forward to more vids.
Oh, and I don't think you are to blame at all, mate. Hamish was very wide and then aimed straight back at the apex. I would've stayed on the wide line, assuming there would be a bike coming up the inside. I don't reckon he gave racing room. But it's just a racing incident.
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zoidberg
14-06-2016, 08:00 PM
I felt a bit guilty at first watch, seems I spooked Hamish? I remember when he passed me on the straight, I wanted to get him back into four as I felt I was quicker than him on exit of three. When I saw how wide he was, I jumped at the chance and really made an effort to stay tight on the corner. I had no idea that a crash happened right then until watching this video! I remember busting my arse and holding a super tight line into MG that lap to give myself a chance to hold the position for the checkered flag.
God damn, I miss racing there already...
Stu23
15-06-2016, 07:41 AM
Well that was a fun weekend :) I know everyone was saying how good the circuit was , and they are right. Smooth as, good grip, and Fast ! Finding the confidence to push and use all of the track was tricky ( carl and I have never been there before ). So we spent Friday on the practice day slowly getting up to speed. Think we may have managed a 47 or a 48 by the end of the day, which I was happy with, seeing as i havnt done anything for a year and Carl is still learning heaps.
Sat was Wet, very wet ! Windy and still heaps of fun. The racing was interesting, watching Carl disappear into the distance, hes getting quite quick now ;) quite a few crashes though and a few oil spills meant we didnt get through the program.
Sunday was drying, that meant wet tyres on a drying track but man that was a giggle, sliding everywhere and feeling the front tyre walk under brakes was top fun. As it dried we switched back onto slicks, Carl got straight into it but i was getting tired. Cant believe how fast he was going getting into flat 45's and lots of them, I was stuck at low 48's i think. I had a blast , Carl cannot stop grinning and saying its the BEST place hes ever been to. Thanks to everyone for making it so much fun, thanks to my bike for not blowing up as its now in its 3rd plus season of racing since its build ( well overdue a rebuild ). One year off any track action was def too long before going to PI racing, but it was soo much fun. Till next time :)
Turbo
15-06-2016, 08:16 AM
That's some great riding after the big break, Stu! How did the shoulder hold up?
Well done to you both for finally getting doing there and posting some great times! :thumb:
Stu23
15-06-2016, 08:34 AM
Thanks Owen, funnily enough the shoulder was great all weekend, it was my right hip and right wrist that was killing me !! go figure.. old and creaky ;)
Krackeye
15-06-2016, 03:52 PM
Looks like a mixed bag for everyone. Results, weather, crashes. Very jealous reading the stories. Well done to all.
zooker
15-06-2016, 10:02 PM
What a weekend. Was soo worth the crappy weather just to experience racing at Phillip Island finally. Friday practice was pretty good, although a bit timid having seen so many bikes going down. While the track was fine and grippy I think it was more the mental side of things that kept me slightly cautious knowing there was a full w/end of racing to go. Only managed 47's best.
Saturday was not so great. Not having done much wet riding, and certainly no wet racing, I struggled to get comfortable and felt my bike setup (i.e. backing a few things off and hoping for the best) was not helping. Got lucky in qualifying and got 1 mostly dry lap in before the heavens opened, putting me into 5th for the first 600 race.
First race and I had a cracking start, 2nd into the first corner and only 4th by Honda. Unfortunately it ended there, losing the rear out of nowhere. Got the bike fixed up and continued the rest of the wet races cautiously around mid-pack, with the aim of finishing and hoping for dry weather Sunday.
Sunday started wet but dried quite quickly. First race was still on wets on the drying track so chewed them up pretty good. Remaining races were dry, and I gradually worked my way up the field, generally ending up either just in-front or just behind Carl. I think he pipped me on the line by 0.05 seconds in my last race.....bastard :thumb: Had some great passes, and even managed to slip stream past someone which doesn't generally happen with my power disadvantage.
I missed the last 600 race after discovering my chain master clip missing (yea yea I know it should be riveted), and unfortunately the last clubby race was cancelled due to oil and lack of time.
Here's the vid of my crash to get thigs started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xezb-Kzz-I
zooker
15-06-2016, 10:06 PM
Rest of Sunday's races, being far more interesting than Saturday :P
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjC8xPm1Chk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OpR2KLTfb7E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSGdNO_hhHE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QD8lE-b5E
Marshy
15-06-2016, 10:23 PM
What a weekend. Was soo worth the crappy weather just to experience racing at Phillip Island finally. Friday practice was pretty good, although a bit timid having seen so many bikes going down. While the track was fine and grippy I think it was more the mental side of things that kept me slightly cautious knowing there was a full w/end of racing to go. Only managed 47's best.
Saturday was not so great. Not having done much wet riding, and certainly no wet racing, I struggled to get comfortable and felt my bike setup (i.e. backing a few things off and hoping for the best) was not helping. Got lucky in qualifying and got 1 mostly dry lap in before the heavens opened, putting me into 5th for the first 600 race.
First race and I had a cracking start, 2nd into the first corner and only 4th by Honda. Unfortunately it ended there, losing the rear out of nowhere. Got the bike fixed up and continued the rest of the wet races cautiously around mid-pack, with the aim of finishing and hoping for dry weather Sunday.
Sunday started wet but dried quite quickly. First race was still on wets on the drying track so chewed them up pretty good. Remaining races were dry, and I gradually worked my way up the field, generally ending up either just in-front or just behind Carl. I think he pipped me on the line by 0.05 seconds in my last race.....bastard :thumb: Had some great passes, and even managed to slip stream past someone which doesn't generally happen with my power disadvantage.
I missed the last 600 race after discovering my chain master clip missing (yea yea I know it should be riveted), and unfortunately the last clubby race was cancelled due to oil and lack of time.
Here's the vid of my crash to get thigs started
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Xezb-Kzz-I
Coool!! Who was that on the Kwaka??
Linden
16-06-2016, 06:34 AM
Coool!! Who was that on the Kwaka??
guessing
1st 78 Sam MULDOON 5 10:13.510 01:58.349 5 135.21 km/h
Krackeye
16-06-2016, 07:40 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-3QD8lE-b5E
Did well making those places. Lonely ol' ride 2nd half of the race. Fastest lap last lap too. :rockon:
Stu23
16-06-2016, 09:08 AM
Was fun racing with you in the clubbys and your bike aint that slow ;)
Wolfie57
16-06-2016, 09:25 AM
Great to read all the stories and general excitement. Although I'd been to PI before I had never raced there and what an experience, it's totally different when racing and I can see why the pro's love it so much!
I can shed some light on the end of the weekend as I was racing in the Unlimited clubsport race that ended it. Was battling with David Burch for 3rd place when Corey Forde's weird/old/crazy fast bike literally exploded in front of us at the end of the straight! We both rode through a white cloud of smoke and oil and when it came to braking for turn 1 I realised that I couldn't see a thing thanks to all the oil on my visor! The rest of the race we just avoided the left hand side of the track and apart from visibility it was OK. I reckon there was so much oil down that they wouldn't have had time to clean it up before it was dark.
Boys if you loved it so much come and join us in August for the Pirelli nationals......I have a new favourite race track, shame its in Mordor. :flame:
zoidberg
16-06-2016, 06:54 PM
I think it was Corey Fordes bellypan I hit at full noise down the straight. Bloody terrifying that was! Ridiculous amounts of fun and stress over that few days for sure. Things I learned:
1: 6 yr old worn wets have basically no edge grip. MG had me sliding on my arse before I even realised I was sliding on my arse.
2: Newer bikes have no need to even try slipstreaming my old girl to get past.
3: Wet weather tyres don't last too long once the track is basically dry.
4: After crashing my bike, I really need to run it back up to temp before just assuming it's okay.
5: When warming the bike up 5 minutes before heading out for the first of two warm up sessions on new wet weather tyres about 50 minutes before the first race of the day and steam starts shooting out of the radiator with every twist of the throttle, you quickly understand what stress and feelings of "oh fuck it" feel like. Thanks heaps for the tip of trying to pinch together the fins of the radiator where the leak was Wolfie, bloody awesome advice. AND it worked, you legend.
6: Watching my mate struggling to change his rear wheel over and over again on his BMW makes me very happy to have my yamaha.
7: Riding at the island is good, RACING at the island is amazing.
8: Seriously top bunch of blokes do this racing gig, thankyou one and all for the fun times.
9: I wish I had taken a few more pics and had the go pro running over the weekend.
10: Racing is just awesome.
zooker
16-06-2016, 08:08 PM
Last of the clubby races. Spent the whole race hunting down Carl. Damn that finish was sooo close haha
https://youtu.be/XBxKCjuXMoY
Krackeye
17-06-2016, 06:51 AM
Carl's got some lovely lines. And nice work on the picks Zook!
Stu23
17-06-2016, 07:43 AM
For me to watch that is a pleasure , thanks ever so for uploading :) You guys were so close all weekend it was brilliant watching you both race flat out .. but with respect.. As i said before, your 05 R6 isnt giving much away to Carls 06 R6 down the chute, you are miles stronger under brakes, and you closed him at T1 and T2 every lap.. Great stuff :)
Wolfie57
17-06-2016, 07:59 AM
[QUOTE=zoidberg;27257]I think it was Corey Fordes bellypan I hit at full noise down the straight. Bloody terrifying that was! Ridiculous amounts of fun and stress over that few days for sure. Things I learned:
1: 6 yr old worn wets have basically no edge grip. MG had me sliding on my arse before I even realised I was sliding on my arse.)
That was one of the slowest crashes I have ever witnessed in my life! Watching you hanging on to it while lying in the middle of the track was priceless!!
Turbo
17-06-2016, 08:03 AM
Fantastic update and vids!! A great read :thumb:
Thanks heaps for posting, everybody. Pretty damn envious that I couldn't make it down!!
It's SUCH a mad track. Agree with Wolfie, shame it's MILES away!!
zoidberg
17-06-2016, 01:30 PM
[QUOTE=zoidberg;27257]I think it was Corey Fordes bellypan I hit at full noise down the straight. Bloody terrifying that was! Ridiculous amounts of fun and stress over that few days for sure. Things I learned:
1: 6 yr old worn wets have basically no edge grip. MG had me sliding on my arse before I even realised I was sliding on my arse.)
That was one of the slowest crashes I have ever witnessed in my life! Watching you hanging on to it while lying in the middle of the track was priceless!!
I aim to please wolfie. Didn't happen to get it on camera did you? Yeh, it certainly was slow!
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Marshy
17-06-2016, 02:32 PM
Last of the clubby races. Spent the whole race hunting down Carl. Damn that finish was sooo close haha
https://youtu.be/XBxKCjuXMoY
Unreal!! Nice riding, both of you. Carl, your rear end looks very good. Great drive, with no movement. You need to work on your right-hander body position tho (pot/kettle, as my rights are completely rubbish!!).
Turbo
17-06-2016, 03:05 PM
Carl, your rear end looks very good.
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/1b/9e/04/1b9e041e0e3db96daa99b51570e4b074.jpg
zooker
17-06-2016, 03:12 PM
Yea Carl had some very nice lines. Something I struggled with all weekend, but not so crucial with such a wide track. Stu did you not see how far back he came for that win haha. Slipstreamed like a boss too.
Stu23
17-06-2016, 04:02 PM
He missed a downshift down lukie and went round in 3rd ! got mad and just kept it pinned, his corner speed to get back to you was unreal, have a look in the rear view camera, then he just kept it pinned till the finish !
Marshy !!! leave my sons rear alone !
zooker
17-06-2016, 04:44 PM
Yep there were a few corners hed had me way outclassed in corner speed.
Last of my vids. Bit of a lonely race other than getting passed by a rocketship about mid-race haha. You can see Carl almost catching me to the line. Another lap would've been interesting
https://youtu.be/7WH6RVaHOvI
Carl-52
17-06-2016, 05:08 PM
I was close with that one zook. Scraped everything on the deck to get around that last corner to get you back after my mistake. And yeh Marshy, im a little crossed up with the upper body on right handers, i think ive got it nailed down to hand position on the throttle holding my wristin and locking up my right side. Was working on rolling my hand around on the throttle to drop the elbow and shoulders across. Reverted back to standard on the races tho.
Carl-52
17-06-2016, 05:12 PM
But hey, smoothness is what ive been chasing since the start and repeat ability for lines and lap times. Pb was a 45.1 surrounded by 45.2s and 45.3s. I dont know what i was doing some races tho, kind of mulling around the middle then going aw yeah im racing, hard lap to catch up and pass.
Wolfie57
20-06-2016, 07:01 AM
[QUOTE=Wolfie57;27262]
I aim to please wolfie. Didn't happen to get it on camera did you? Yeh, it certainly was slow!
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Sorry mate no I didn't, no camera in the wet, don't want to break it!
Metal-Man
21-06-2016, 06:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcsIVEIK5o
Ruckos87
22-06-2016, 04:48 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=spcsIVEIK5o
Awesome start!!!
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