The Red Baron has arrived

[Marshy]

Took delivery of the Red Baron this morning. Having a crack at ze german for a change....

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-1.jpg

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-2.jpg

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I'm fairly sure there are supposed to be some bits in here, and a cover over them. :ohwell:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-4.jpg



A couple of nice surprises.... rad guard and K&N filter.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-5.jpg

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-6.jpg




2 hours later:

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-7.jpg

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-8.jpg





Bummer. Dave should be able to fix this though.

http://tarmactalk.com/images/red-baron-9.jpg

[Binksy]

Will be very interested to watch this one take shape!

[Turbo]

Ooooooh!! Exciting! :thumb: :cool:
Not too bad, damage wise.... What stock bits do you think will need replacing apart from Stem and Stator cover?
Then what's on the list as far as fast bits go??

[Marshy]

Just properly checked the head stem and it looks fine. First impressions were misleading, because someone hadn't done up the steering head bearing nuts correctly, and there was play in the headstock. Once everything was out and able to be examined properly, it's all ok. The bearings look very fresh.

In playing the 'what caused the crash' guessing game, I'm gonna suggest that the steering head bearings were replaced, but not adjusted correctly, which would've caused a thunking in the headstem while riding (it was massively noticeable just wheeling it into the workshop). This sort of problem led to a recent crash at the Creek by a mate on a Beemer, so it might be the cause here too.

[windy]

Nice mate.

[zoidberg]

Are those rags the new GB racing engine covers??? Look, I don't mean to be rude, but all your RSV4 builds laid waste to my thought process and now I own one. I can't afford a beemer too...

[Leezx10r]

Had a look first hand this afternoon, looks like a great build thread, plus Christmas in July hehe

[Marshy]

Look, I don't mean to be rude, but all your RSV4 builds laid waste to my thought process and now I own one. I can't afford a beemer too...

Ahahhahahaahahhahahaahaaha!!!! :pound: Sorry about that ;)

Although it's still entirely possible I won't like it. I still love love love the RSV4s.

[senator8]

Ahahhahahaahahhahahaahaaha!!!! :pound: Sorry about that ;)

Although it's still entirely possible I won't like it. I still love love love the RSV4s.

Steady....... You haven't even got her in the sack yet and you're making assumptions about her.
At the very least it will be entertaining;)
Btw I'm pretty sure I've a stator case.

[Marshy]

You haven't even got her in the sack yet

Not yet, but I've been tenderly exploring her nether regions, and so far I like what I see ;)

[johnnyb]

Welcome to ze dark side.


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[Marty]

Very nice! Hopefully there isn't too much crap in the engine

[WRCPUG]

sweet
you sure are lucky getting to build and test out all these amazing machines

[Turbo]

There was a lonely looking BMW at the back of the SSR workshop and I DO love a good build.... So, with Marshy having permanently de-camped back to Aprilia and me keen to get my teeth stuck into a litre bike, please make welcome my new race bike!! :cool: :cool: :first:

http://i.imgur.com/za26lswl.jpg

Although it's still in bits, it's actually not too far off being ready to ride. That being said, it'll be my new number one bike so I've begun ordering some some fast bits to make it even more awesomer!

It took a long while of thinking before I arrived at the BMW. As some people know, I was moments away from buying a 2015 R1 after having ridden one on the track and had my face melted!!
The trouble with a brand new bike tho is that they cost a lot! Not only the outright buy price but everything required to make it race fit, was adding up; and with spares also being scarce and expensive, it would be catastrophic if I crashed it...
The other major factor is, who would I race?! The 2015 R1 would only be eligible for Unlimited class. With no options for cross entering, I'd be spending race weekends watching everybody else race!!

So, before too long, the R1 was ruled out. I ended up making a shortlist of what I wanted from a litre bike and having REALLY enjoyed riding a couple of Marshy's build BMW's, this seemed like an excellent choice.
Thanks heaps to Marshy, Wolfie57, Stevem and Senator8 who have all listened to endless BMW questions and given me some great setup ideas!
Stay tuned as the shiny bits start to arrive!! :peace:

[Marshy]

WOOOHOOO!!


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[Leezx10r]

[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻[emoji119]🏻

Congrats Owen, this is going to be epic [emoji106]🏻


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[zoidberg]

Unreal mate! Look forward to seeing this on track!

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[jaswib]

There was a lonely looking BMW at the back of the SSR workshop and I DO love a good build.... So, with Marshy having permanently de-camped back to Aprilia and me keen to get my teeth stuck into a litre bike, please make welcome my new race bike!! :cool: :cool: :first:

http://i.imgur.com/za26lswl.jpg

Although it's still in bits, it's actually not too far off being ready to ride. That being said, it'll be my new number one bike so I've begun ordering some some fast bits to make it even more awesomer!

It took a long while of thinking before I arrived at the BMW. As some people know, I was moments away from buying a 2015 R1 after having ridden one on the track and had my face melted!!
The trouble with a brand new bike tho is that they cost a lot! Not only the outright buy price but everything required to make it race fit, was adding up; and with spares also being scarce and expensive, it would be catastrophic if I crashed it...
The other major factor is, who would I race?! The 2015 R1 would only be eligible for Unlimited class. With no options for cross entering, I'd be spending race weekends watching everybody else race!!

So, before too long, the R1 was ruled out. I ended up making a shortlist of what I wanted from a litre bike and having REALLY enjoyed riding a couple of Marshy's build BMW's, this seemed like an excellent choice.
Thanks heaps to Marshy, Wolfie57, Stevem and Senator8 who have all listened to endless BMW questions and given me some great setup ideas!
Stay tuned as the shiny bits start to arrive!! :peace:
Awesome mate. So are you selling up the 2 r6s then ?

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[Ruckos87]

Top stuff!!!!


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[Turbo]

Awesome mate. So are you selling up the 2 r6s then ?


Yeah, unfortunately it's time to say goodbye to my beloved R6's :pout::violin:
Just need to find some time to take pictures and I'll put them up!

[Ruckos87]

So u looking for a 2nd BMW or going to run one bike?


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[Turbo]

So u looking for a 2nd BMW or going to run one bike?


Nah, no plans for a second bike at the moment. The focus/funds will be allocated to getting this up to spec.
See what happens after that tho... :madgrin:

[Mr.Ed]

See what happens after that tho... :madgrin:


We all know how this ends! hahaha

Congrats on the new bike! ;)

[Ruckos87]

Lol. I'm hearing you about the new bikes and costs though[emoji35]
I've pretty decided to keep the ape so I can enter club sport as well. ( hopefully where I'm not last)
The trailers packed now with two different bikes, there gear everywhere.
Oh well...


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[zoidberg]

First world problems...

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[Slow bro]

Well done Owen.

[Marshy]

First world problems...

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This!! ;)

[chubb]

Nice Owen!!


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[johnnyb]

Achtung!!!! Remember we do not mention the war. Welcome.


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[Jakels]

Sieg Heil Owen.

Given your reasons for not buying the R1, limited categories:
Can I ask why you didn't go RSV4?

Surely you weren't worried about the connection people may have made between you and Marshy being on the same bike?😃

http://www.socialtalent.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Mini-Me.jpg

[Turbo]

:rofl: :pound: That's hilarious!!

Great question! I had ridden the RSV4 a couple of times and I really liked it. There were a couple of reasons I wasn't sold on it tho. Firstly the engine and power.
The V4 is an interesting engine but to me it didn't feel and sound quite right in comparison to the inline four I've always had. Also, pre 2015 and they're down on power up against it's competitors.
The other reason is the size and feel of the Aprilia. It feels small and chuckable, much like the R6.
If I'm totally honest tho, the 'unstable' style of the R6 took a LONG while to get used to and I'm thinking the more planted nature of the BMW might suit my natural style even better.... At least thats what I've currently justified....
Who knows tho. What I do know is that both have an excellent package and either will be a bit of a learning curve.
You're right, It would have been fun to be on the same bike as Marshy, so we're going to see about getting a pillion seat added for the remainder of the season!! :lol:

[Slow bro]

Sieg Heil Owen.

Given your reasons for not buying the R1, limited categories:
Can I ask why you didn't go RSV4?

Surely you weren't worried about the connection people may have made between you and Marshy being on the same bike?😃

http://www.socialtalent.co/wp-content/uploads/2015/08/Mini-Me.jpg


:pound::pound::pound:

[Marshy]

we're going to see about getting a pillion seat added for the remainder of the season!!

You know you soooo like riding bitch......

http://i.imgur.com/h4mJCw1l.jpg

[Turbo]

The SSR workshop has said goodbye to a few bikes recently so I was finally able to get at the BMW to get started on the build!!
First up, relatively simple, was enabling the 4th riding mode 'Slick Mode' which has the most aggressive power delivery and least amount of TC etc.
All that's needed is an $80 BMW 'Red plug' on the end of a socket on the loom... This bike didn't have one so I thought I'd get creative...

It turns out it's just a 100Ohm resistor in the plug so a quick visit to the components department and we were good to go!!

http://i.imgur.com/wcdD728l.jpg

Testing it works...

http://i.imgur.com/Gc9zO2Al.jpg

Then remove the socket, re-terminate, heat shrink and she's a goodun!

http://i.imgur.com/OpHEsYdl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/A56GmLOl.png :thumb:

On the subject of electronics.... One of the big reasons I wanted to get a litre was to have some electronics to get stuck in to..
After a fair bit of research, I settled on a combination of BMW & Aftermarket ECU Flash and electronics upgrade.
Here's what'll happen, all controlled via the BMW Race Calibration Kit Software:

Proven WSBK/MotoGP mapping including the following optimised functions
* injection
* ignition
* airbox funnel switching
* traction-control (gear-dependent, wheely-detection for optimised slip calculation)
* quick shifter (reduced shift duration)
* engine rpm limitation with soft-cut
* e-throttle (independent in riding modes)
* launch control (also in 2. gear)
* engine brake (gear dependent)
* DTC (dynamic traction control)
* ABS
* PIT rpm-limiter
* read/delete ECU error-memory
* clear adaptation values

The downside is that the ECU has to be sent to flippin Germany! But with a new kid just arrived, time is currently on my side! :lol:


http://i.imgur.com/9KIY8q6l.jpg

Next up was the fuel tank. I love me some quick-pour action so I nibbled out the tank internal, ready for the new cap....

http://i.imgur.com/voFufNEl.jpg

Quick release fuel cap fitted...

http://i.imgur.com/q6IlVI6l.jpg

Booom!!

http://i.imgur.com/kLY1MErl.jpg

Last thing for now is the exhaust. It came with an Akrapocvich end can and the electronics can be mapped to it so all I needed was a bit of a de-cat and I'd be good to go.

I set to work with the angle grinder and saved about 20kg in the process!

http://i.imgur.com/j6Yf2y5l.jpg

On goes the mid-pipe...

http://i.imgur.com/6eE3dXSl.jpg

If you don't own one of these badboys, GET ONE!! The right angled power wrench made short work of those header nuts that are normally a BITCH!!

http://i.imgur.com/kGT15zjl.jpg

There's a bit more work to do before I put the shiny end can on but I'm pretty happy with the progress so far!!

http://i.imgur.com/QjfXHmMl.jpg

[chubb]

Nice work. Looking forward to seeing this out on track!


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[Leezx10r]

That's a sweet update Owen! It's all coming together mate [emoji106]🏻

The new Ecu updates and the flexibility it will give you, sounds amazing!

[Turbo]

Thanks chaps, I can't wait to have a crack on it!!

[Ruckos87]

Looking good Owen!!!!

I'm Interested the fuel tank mod. I've Got the same issue with the R1 did u just do it upside down then give it a good clean out after? Or was there more to it?


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[jaswib]

Looks awesome Owen very jealous. Sooo when i hit a 39 can i get one to. ☺☺

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[Krackeye]

Noice handy work there Owen.:clap:

[Marshy]

Sooo when i hit a 39 can i get one too

That's how it works, Jase. So giddy up mate!!!

[Turbo]

Looking good Owen!!!!

I'm Interested the fuel tank mod. I've Got the same issue with the R1 did u just do it upside down then give it a good clean out after? Or was there more to it?


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Yeah, you're on the right track. I totally drained it first, removed the fuel pump then fixed a rag on the underside of the work area.
After I was done, I air cleaned the surface then removed the rag. Inside I rinsed out with a bit of fuel then again some air to make sure I hadn't missed anything.
Then put the clean fuel pump back in, new cap on and it's good to go!!


Noice handy work there Owen.:clap:

Cheers Marcus!! :thumb:


Sooo when i hit a 39 can i get one too


That'show it works, Jase. So giddy up mate!!!


Totes mate, we're waiting!!

[chubb]

Looks awesome Owen very jealous. Sooo when i hit a 39 can i get one to. ☺☺

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You're not too far away!

[jaswib]

You're not too far away!
Me plus 1000 equals high side city population meeeee. 😑

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[Turbo]

Thanks to Rancell, I got tagged on a post of some suspension going cheap in WA.
I'm not sure the guy knew what he had as it was just listed as 'Bitubo Suspension'.
Turns out that I'd seen the guy on the grid at ASBK and he had been swapping paint with Marshy all series.
He's endorsed by K-Tech and the Bitubo came on a bike he'd bought, so he just wanted rid of it.
Turns out it's TOP OF THE LINE WSBK spec Bitubo ECH29 Gas Karts and an XXF31 V2 Mono Shock!!

I've just taken delivery of it and it looks flippin mint!!

http://i.imgur.com/BmsKqgkl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DrTrgpil.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/39amsM4l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rTpGEgnl.jpg

Since I bought it, I've been in touch with Bitubo HQ who have been very helpful in hooking me up with base settings for oil height, shock length and even clicker settings to get me started. SUPER stoked with this find and I can't wait to get them fitted up!! :thumb: :cool: :cool:

[Carl-52]

Awesome find!

[zoidberg]

That's unreal Owen! Good score mate.

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[Mr.Ed]

Niiice! Love a good score! ;)

[Marshy]

Ultra cheep cheep, too. Ultra ultra. Nice bit of kit. Wouldn't mind trying some on an Ape one day.

[chubb]

Thanks to Rancell, I got tagged on a post of some suspension going cheap in WA.
I'm not sure the guy knew what he had as it was just listed as 'Bitubo Suspension'.
Turns out that I'd seen the guy on the grid at ASBK and he had been swapping paint with Marshy all series.
He's endorsed by K-Tech and the Bitubo came on a bike he'd bought, so he just wanted rid of it.
Turns out it's TOP OF THE LINE WSBK spec Bitubo ECH29 Gas Karts and an XXF31 V2 Mono Shock!!

I've just taken delivery of it and it looks flippin mint!!

http://i.imgur.com/BmsKqgkl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/DrTrgpil.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/39amsM4l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/rTpGEgnl.jpg

Since I bought it, I've been in touch with Bitubo HQ who have been very helpful in hooking me up with base settings for oil height, shock length and even clicker settings to get me started. SUPER stoked with this find and I can't wait to get them fitted up!! :thumb: :cool: :cool:

Glad it worked out buddy!

[Turbo]

Ultra cheep cheep, too. Ultra ultra. Nice bit of kit. Wouldn't mind trying some on an Ape one day.

Nope, this is MY brand now. Go find your own :P


Glad it worked out buddy!

If I don't like it tho, I'll be expecting a full refund from you!! :lol:

[stevem]

This is taking shape nicely Owen. Very nice.

[Marshy]

Nope, this is MY brand now. Go find your own :P

http://s2.quickmeme.com/img/b1/b1c671bb18f86f53fcd0737c431d091e6060d7511903f53a5f 38e0eba783c496.jpg

[Wolfie57]

So impressed by the suspenders, what a steal! This bike is getting plenty of attention, I thought the sleep dep would have got you by now mate!

[Turbo]

So impressed by the suspenders, what a steal! This bike is getting plenty of attention, I thought the sleep dep would have got you by now mate!

Hahah thanks mate!! The late nights have allowed for some extensive googling!!
and for parts shopping... :thumb:

[Negrogrande]

looks amazing mate.

well done on almost stealing the suspenders

[Turbo]

The bike is a repairable write off with the culprit looking to be the slight damage that the flywheel sustained.

http://i.imgur.com/aBZHFNVl.jpg

We had a crack at removing the damaged flywheel but without the proper puller, it was a tricky bugger to get off!
The loctite on it also has a release temperature of over 200c!! Without knowing it, the temp we excerpted on the replacement flywheel (still on the crank) actually caused it to lose it's magnetic charge... The benefit of hind legs taught that there's no substitute for the right tool for the job!

http://i.imgur.com/3HYnedsl.jpg

With this in mind, it was off for a quick trip to Bikebiz to get them swapped out using the proper BMW tool. Here is where we discovered the replacement flywheel was without it's magnetic charge!!
After a bit of ringing around and head scratching about how to re-magnetise a flywheel, as luck would have it, Wolfie57 turned out to have a spare flywheel on the motor he was about to replace. A couple of favours later and I was back in business!!

http://i.imgur.com/O4hPspyl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/GjiC9bnl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/qA5IDIPl.png :thumb:

Then it was back to the SSR workshop to get engine sealed up and rinsed out.

http://i.imgur.com/Y95I33il.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U4oPLhNl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/qc7pvdpl.jpg

Next up, with the motor back together, I can start piecing together some crash protection along with Ti drilled caliper bolts, drilled oil sump and drilled oil filler plugs. Then I'll pull apart the brakes and give them a bit of an overhaul. :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/nAW0zWkl.jpg

[Wolfie57]

Good bit of teamwork last week, need a replacement motor, Brett Harpur calls Anthony Saad who mentions one on FB that Josh McFarlane is stripping, sold, quick chat with Owen, flywheel sorted for him and pick up of motor for me with help of Marshy, everyone's happy and all in a day :thumb:

Looking forward to seeing you out there mate and helping me beat these pesky Aprilias! :peep::ban:

[Marshy]

Looking forward to seeing you out there mate and helping me beat these pesky Aprilias! :peep::ban:

Ha!! Good luck with that ;)



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[Carl-52]

good stuff guys! looks like its coming along now owen. is the kid learning the names of tools already against her will??? hahaha

[Ruckos87]

Good bit of teamwork last week, need a replacement motor, Brett Harpur calls Anthony Saad who mentions one on FB that Josh McFarlane is stripping, sold, quick chat with Owen, flywheel sorted for him and pick up of motor for me with help of Marshy, everyone's happy and all in a day :thumb:

This is the best thing I'm finding out about this sport, and the guys here on TT
Bloody fantastic !!!!!


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[Turbo]

Good bit of teamwork last week, need a replacement motor, Brett Harpur calls Anthony Saad who mentions one on FB that Josh McFarlane is stripping, sold, quick chat with Owen, flywheel sorted for him and pick up of motor for me with help of Marshy, everyone's happy and all in a day :thumb:

Looking forward to seeing you out there mate and helping me beat these pesky Aprilias! :peep::ban:

Totes!! Busy day but very lucky how it happened.


Ha!! Good luck with that ;)

Who needs luck? We've got ambition that'll outweigh anything you care to mention!! :peace:

[Turbo]

good stuff guys! looks like its coming along now owen. is the kid learning the names of tools already against her will??? hahaha

She's not bothered about tools.. she's already told me that's my job.
She's purely concentrating on riding...
http://i.imgur.com/ESPLX2Fl.jpg

[Turbo]

More shiny things have been arriving in the post so I thought I should get to work fitting them up!!

First up from the good people at Hel Australia, some braided lines front and rear:

http://i.imgur.com/rrUw0dFl.jpg

Before I could fit the new lines tho, there was the small matter of eliminating the ABS system.
If you've not seen one before, basically all the lines are run back to a central pump that has a bunch of plungers in them that apply the ABS. On the BMW this box is also a control box for the traction control so you can't just rip the whole thing out.
You can either buy a clever harness/black box thingo that takes care of the traction control and potential fault codes or you can go at it with blunt instruments until it looks done. (Thanks for the tips Stevem, JonnyB & Wolfie57!!)
Happily my new ECU flash takes care of the error codes so I decided to go without the aftermarket harness and opt for the latter, blunt instrument approach...

Here's the ABS unit, under the seat...

http://i.imgur.com/cFYCuajl.jpg


I think I only really need the bit on the left, under the plug, as the stuff on the right is for the ABS plungers. There looks to be a PCB board underneath it all tho so I'll not strip it back any further.

http://i.imgur.com/1eOYwBZl.jpg

It was a bit of a mission, pulling out all of the rigid brake lines that were threaded through the engine but I think we've saved a fair bit of weight!

http://i.imgur.com/EuZaisQl.jpg

Whilst I was in there I removed the old exhaust flapper servos too. Again, the ECU flash will take care of any errors.

http://i.imgur.com/xSJM7qxl.jpg

I tidied up the control unit under the seat but found there was a bit of a hole where the ABS pump unit was mounted...

http://i.imgur.com/knp43snl.jpg

I've got some BMW control software coming, for the electronics, and I'll need a cable to control that, so I made the hole a bit bigger and it'll get an IP rated USB port fitted :cool: :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/Fnr5nhll.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/fsmzT4ul.jpg



With the old brake lines off, I was now ready to fit up the new ones. Happily this meant fitting up the new Vortex rear-sets, carbon hugger and finally the Akra!

http://i.imgur.com/PenzpvXl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/vicmXbRl.jpg

I ran the front lines too but there are a few more bits that need done to the front end before I can call that done...

http://i.imgur.com/0qQ30Cfl.jpg

[Ruckos87]

Looking sweeeeeet!!! ETA on track?


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[Turbo]

Thanks mate!! I've just been told that the ECU and fairings are both landing next week!
If I can find the time to put it all together... end of the month?!? Maybeeee?!

[Marshy]

Looks awesome!!!!!! :thumb: Nice, neat work :cool:

[stevem]

Owen the prong that was mounted on the electrical side of the ABS pump you may still need for traction control to work. I stabbed mine in to a piece of foam and taped it up.

[nigelnobody]

Very impressive build sicko!
New pb's on the way i'm thinkin' some trophies too.

Edit: btw if your sticking with v02 fronts some guys are doing 33's now too.

[Turbo]

Owen the prong that was mounted on the electrical side of the ABS pump you may still need for traction control to work. I stabbed mine in to a piece of foam and taped it up.

I'd say that's power to the pressure modulator. It's just two prongs that go back to the PCB board.
I didn't want to tear it out, but as they don't move, I saw no harm in making them shorter.
If I'm wrong tho, there are heaps of cheap replacements on eBay! :thumb:

[Turbo]

Very impressive build sicko!
New pb's on the way i'm thinkin' some trophies too.

Edit: btw if your sticking with v02 fronts some guys are doing 33's now too.

Hahaha, thanks mate!
33's on the out lap :madgrin:

[Leezx10r]

It's all coming together now mate, great work [emoji106]🏻


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[dan]

Looks rad dude


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[Negrogrande]

looks ace Owen

[Turbo]

Shocking development....

Despite having bought the gear second hand, the Bitubo guys in Australia and at HQ have been incredibly helpful when it comes to information.
I've heard from a fair few people that the BMW's can be a pain to setup for handling etc so I was keen to at least get a base setting to work from.
What I received tho, was page after page after page of setup information for a rider my weight, including fork height, shock length, clicker settings, oil height and even shim stacks, straight from WSBK recorded data for a variety of tyres on a variety of tracks.

Just a snippit...

http://i.imgur.com/nvmqKnKl.png

One thing I discovered, is that the shock I'd bought is actually for a 2010, not the 2013+ that my bike is.
The overall wheelbase was decreased from 2010 to 2012 on the bike to make the handling better, so this would have been the reason the shock changed.
Armed with the setup and build data for both models, it was easy too see what needed changing to make it work...

http://i.imgur.com/yVicQnOl.jpg


So it's out with the old...

http://i.imgur.com/rfG1Mcyl.jpg


....and in with the new!!

http://i.imgur.com/vgDtvH7l.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zaR8qkxl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/U1jagzgl.jpg


Last thing for today was some GB crash protection!! Race profile frame sliders and the engine case covers...

http://i.imgur.com/6Nqw8Lel.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/Ath3WOol.jpg

[Ruckos87]

That's awesome!! Pays to ask the questions hey...


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[Turbo]

My ECU finally arrived back from it's trip over to Germany! Freshly flashed and with speed holes drilled in it :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/L9lZCDpl.jpg

I don't know what I was expecting but I was still slightly disappointed that the ECU looked exactly the same on the outside.....
On the inside tho... :cool:
http://i.imgur.com/E1B2wU2l.jpg

With my newly acquired BMW Race Calibration Kit software and interface, I've unlocked a bewildering array of adjustment and fine tuning parameters:

http://i.imgur.com/aDPJpiZl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/mOCSjhYl.jpg

Part of the flash I ordered, was the WSBK ECU settings, directly from BMW/Alpha Racing's factory team. So, helpfully, it's already likely to be pretty good out of the box.
I can use these settings as a base then fine tune my own presets and modes for the local track conditions and tyre profiles.
Here's another look at what I had done:

Proven WSBK/MotoGP mapping including the following optimised functions
* injection
* ignition
* airbox funnel switching
* traction-control (gear-dependent, wheely-detection for optimised slip calculation)
* quick shifter (reduced shift duration)
* engine rpm limitation with soft-cut
* e-throttle mapping (independent in riding modes)
* launch control (also in 2. gear)
* engine brake (gear dependent)
* DTC (dynamic traction control)
* ABS
* PIT rpm-limiter
* read/delete ECU error-memory
* clear adaptation values

The ECU is controlled through the diagnostic connector(bottom of the pic) which connects to the PC via a USB to serial converter (BMW Motorrad box) which was included with the Race Calibration Kit.

http://i.imgur.com/FdQEfz8l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/XIY77L9l.jpg


I decided to hard wire this in so that I can make adjustments quickly, without having to remove the tail fairing.
So, I fitted an IP rated USB connector that fits in perfect beneath the battery box...

http://i.imgur.com/smoNWcjl.jpg


With the back of the bike really starting to take shape, it was time to turn my attention to the front end...
First up were the forks, they needed a little TLC!

http://i.imgur.com/U3xOAvIl.jpg

Then I took out the old internals and fitted the new Bitubo Gas Carts!! :thumb:

http://i.imgur.com/0Rfkg37l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Q4AB2jpl.jpg

Re-built and refreshed then back in the bike, looking schmicko!!

http://i.imgur.com/FQxD3k9l.jpg


I've never used 2 piece calipers before but having taken these apart to clean, I think they're ACE from a maintenance point of view!
Before.... AFTER..

http://i.imgur.com/wBMH38Ll.jpg

In go the Vesrah's too...

http://i.imgur.com/qHmAfkRl.jpg

Then I sanded back the brake discs back, for a good bed, and put it all back together with the new Titanium cross-drilled caliper bolts!

http://i.imgur.com/G5ea2QYl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/juTlyEHl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/LXsP5EVl.jpg

Best book some track time soon!!?! :peace:

[Marshy]

http://i.imgur.com/smoNWcjl.jpg




Oh. My. God. THAT'S AWESOME!!

Bonus points for the blingy blue usb cable ;)

[chubb]

That looks so good Sicko

[Leezx10r]

Oh yes, this build is going to be a monster [emoji106]🏻
Keep the thread going mate, great work!


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[stevem]

Wow dude, very nice. There is two track days at the end of the month Weds 29 and Thurs the 30th. I was looking at doing both cause its been a while.

[Turbo]

Whilst I was waiting for my ECU to get sorted by Alpha, I couldn't help but update my shopping cart... once or twice...
One such update was the switch block kit. It removes the heated grips stuff and moves the 'Mode' button from throttle hand to the left and just generally looks badass!!
Also fitted up here is the Brembo clutch lever and Renthal dual-compound grips....

http://i.imgur.com/bDiryoYl.jpg


Completing the switch package is the race Start/Kill switch and Alpha quick action throttle.
I LOVED the Brembo 19RCS on the R6 so I couldn't resist getting another!
Here it all is lined up on the new Driven Halo Clip-ons:

http://i.imgur.com/RDWxKK4l.jpg


Last thing for the hand controls is a Woodcraft lever guard and the mini Brembo race reservoir...

http://i.imgur.com/C4SPiJql.jpg


Next job was the drivetrain, 520 chain and sprockets conversion and you can just see the new GB pickup spools and 90 degree valves...

http://i.imgur.com/B9KQjFyl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ZTypxDkl.jpg


The engine was open for a while so once I'd re-fitted the oil cooler and Radguards, I flushed and re-filled the motor with new oil and a new filter.
Then, fitted some cross drilled plugs and caps to make the lock-wiring easier....

http://i.imgur.com/mmpZi6Vl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/56ZziOXl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/ofm0YMUl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/OGfsSuEl.jpg


Whilst I was doing fluids I also filled the new brake lines with race fluid. I'm a sucker for the HRC rear reservoir so that's fitted too.

http://i.imgur.com/zZEh2Ugl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/cuMIMBAl.jpg


Last job for now was the small matter of THE NEW FAIRINGS!!

http://i.imgur.com/VifQFEKl.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/zuqGqIel.jpg


Other than some personalisation and numbers etc...There's not much more to do other than sit on it and make vrooming noises!! :thumb: :cool: :cool:

http://i.imgur.com/34MVmR8l.jpg

[chubb]

Definitely needs on board cameras for first outing


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[zoidberg]

This build is making it move. It's a little embarrassing, but there it is.

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[Ruckos87]

Looking awesome can't wait to here how it goes on the 29th


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[Marshy]

This build is making it move. It's a little embarrassing, but there it is.

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I'm glad I'm not the only one. But let's not look each other in the eye, ok? That would be weird.

[Krackeye]

Mental fucking build Owen. Some of those parts I just have an urge to lick. :redface:

[Turbo]

Ummmm... thanks? I think it's best if none of you are left alone with it tho... :lol:

[Leezx10r]

That's one of the best build threads there's been on here Owen.
I want to see a onboard camera to see your face for the first put [emoji110]🏻[emoji965][emoji100][emoji15]


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[Condor]

W O W …… :hurt:

Looks f*&%ing mental dude… well done. Hopefully see you 29th

[stevem]

Exhaust guard.

[Turbo]

Yiewww!! Thanks all. Can't wait for the 29th :) Hope you can make it Condor :thumb:
Good idea, Steve! I was actually looking for one already, after you showed me yours!
Do MCAS do em??

[stevem]

I got mine as old stock from Morgan and Wacker up in Brisbane heavily reduced but ebay you could probably get one for $95 landed

[WRCPUG]

jesus what an awesome build mate i'm so jealous of all the trick bits you have.

Looking forward to hearing how you go on its maiden run

[Turbo]

Thanks man!! I'll be sure to post up once I've had a crack!

[Wolfie57]

Yiewww!! Thanks all. Can't wait for the 29th :) Hope you can make it Condor :thumb:
Good idea, Steve! I was actually looking for one already, after you showed me yours!
Do MCAS do em??

I got one from Germany (through Ebay) after Steve nagged me as well! Was $93 ish......

[Perry]

Very nice who did the paint

[Turbo]

I got one from Germany (through Ebay) after Steve nagged me as well! Was $93 ish......

Cool man. They're stocked locally tho. I just ordered one through my local bike shop, from the distributor. $79.95
http://www.ficeda.com.au/ep0008bk-7467ce.html


Very nice who did the paint

Thanks man. It was the MotoGP safety bike design, with logos etc removed. Fairings were through Superbike Source.

[Turbo]

The Red Baron is almost ready for the 29th too!!
Just one more small but extremely important thing that I hope I can get resolved before next week...
In the meantime.. a bit of personalisation! Name, numbers, seat foam and stomp grips all fitted tonight, along with a shiny new lithium battery...
Getting SO flippin excited.... so excited that I may have been testing the launch control on the stand in Marshy's garage..... sorry bud! :behindsofa:

http://i.imgur.com/wMbgfWnl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/S9zlg7cl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/a8WUKTcl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TYmnhXNl.jpg

[Leezx10r]

Man she's looking sooooo good [emoji106]🏻


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[Wolfie57]

Looks awesome mate, looking forward to seeing it in the flesh!

Don't put it next to mine, will show me up :ban:

[chicken16]

That looks like a lap record setting bike just sitting on the stands!

[Turbo]

Hahahah, thanks guys!!
110% on the out lap, right??!

[johnnyb]

Owen...I went a touch over 100% at my last ardc day and you know how that turned out.


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[johnnyb]

Owen...I went a touch over 100% at my last ardc day and you know how that turned out.


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[zoidberg]

The Red Baron is almost ready for the 29th too!!
Just one more small but extremely important thing that I hope I can get resolved before next week...
In the meantime.. a bit of personalisation! Name, numbers, seat foam and stomp grips all fitted tonight, along with a shiny new lithium battery...
Getting SO flippin excited.... so excited that I may have been testing the launch control on the stand in Marshy's garage..... sorry bud! :behindsofa:

http://i.imgur.com/wMbgfWnl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/S9zlg7cl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/a8WUKTcl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/TYmnhXNl.jpg
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/f90aac3b21d23ce1e2f94188662a141b.jpg

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[Marshy]

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160623/f90aac3b21d23ce1e2f94188662a141b.jpg

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:pound: :pound: :pound:

[Turbo]

Owen...I went a touch over 100% at my last ardc day and you know how that turned out.


Ok, I guess I could backtrack 10% and still be fully committed...
How's the recovery coming along matey?


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You're just not allowed near my bike man.... :lol:

[johnnyb]

Ok, I guess I could backtrack 10% and still be fully committed...
How's the recovery coming along matey?

Coming along. Shoulder bolted together, thumb lock wired. I suspect it's going to take a bit to get up and running again b
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160624/a8b1854861f3c92f00c1636d5a1e1572.jpg


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[Negrogrande]

Coming along. Shoulder bolted together, thumb lock wired. I suspect it's going to take a bit to get up and running again b
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160624/a8b1854861f3c92f00c1636d5a1e1572.jpg


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Free shopping bag hook! that's handy

[Turbo]

Coming along. Shoulder bolted together, thumb lock wired. I suspect it's going to take a bit to get up and running again b
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160624/a8b1854861f3c92f00c1636d5a1e1572.jpg


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Eeep!! That's mad. All the best for the recovery mate.
What''s the go with the bike?

[stevem]

He's got his his shoulder bolted together and his thumb lock wired and we are like yeh but hows the bike. Love it.

[zoidberg]

Hahah, the important stuff, right?

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[stevem]

You probably should have got your hand locked in the handlebar shape.

[johnnyb]

What''s the go with the bike?

Bike is in emergency in recovery.. I haven't had a close look yet but from what I could see the top of the bike took the brunt of it
So.....
Fairings
Sub frame
Cluster
Lap timer
Rear wheel - might be fixable
Tank
Fairing stay
Bars
Master cylinder

Full recovery expected



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[johnnyb]

You probably should have got your hand locked in the handlebar shape.

How good is lock wire....even surgeons use it.

Just glad they didnt use race tape and cable ties.


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[Turbo]

Bike is in emergency in recovery.. I haven't had a close look yet but from what I could see the top of the bike took the brunt of it
So.....
Fairings
Sub frame
Cluster
Lap timer
Rear wheel - might be fixable
Tank
Fairing stay
Bars
Master cylinder

Full recovery expected



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Glad to hear it's not terminal!!

[Turbo]

I had a great shakedown day on Red Baron's first track day.
It was a bit of a learning curve and there were a few new-build teething issues that I had to work through.
I got a great shot, that when compared side by side with one of me on the R6, explains quite a bit of it...

http://i.imgur.com/pbw9Kq6h.jpg

1 - Clip on positions:
The narrow/tucked in setting I had on the R6 didn't really work on the big bike so with some help from Stevem's awesome digital angle gauge, we flicked them out a fair bit.
Look at the difference in my wrist angle for starters. It's also much easier to chuck the big bike around and makes for a better tuck with the bad shoulder!

2 - Apex:
I'm clearly pretty comfortable on the bike. First day out and the geometry is feeling pretty great and I can put the bike exactly where I want it.

3 - Fork Stroke:
It took a while to get the R6 forks working as well as they are here and by comparison there's clearly some work on the BMW front end to come.
The BMW was bottoming out a lot and as you can see here, at mid corner, it's not in the sweet spot of the stroke. New springs ought to get this sorted out for next time.

4 - Lean angle/body position:
Looking at GPS data, some of my corners are a lot faster on the BMW and although the front suspension isn't yet there, the bike feels very solid to lock 'in' with as opposed to the 'on' style of the R6.
Body position was something that took a long while to resolve on the R6 so I'm very happy to be almost there on the first day with the new bike!

5 - Tyre wear:
Not too easy to see from the picture but the tyre wear on the back of the BMW was perfect! Happily this means that both the rear shock and the electronics are working well together to maximise drive and minimise slip.

The other couple of points that can't be seen in the photos was a little setup trouble I had with the shift lever and rearsets. Unfortunately I missed a fair few gears in most sessions and struggled with a lot of false neutrals right up until the last session where I got it nailed.
The other point was in my own head! I was deff playing it too cautious with roll-off and braking markers going in to almost every corner....
I was sort of assuming I'd be going 50kph+ faster everywhere, than on the R6. Really tho, there's not much on it on the back section. I should have just kept up with my usual markers. T1 however would be a different story!
Normally a strong point of mine on the R6, T1 was a mess all day for me. My markers will deff have to move and dropping two gears, whilst looking for a gear lever in the wrong spot and going at 270kph, was a lot to think about!!
Plenty of food for thought tho!

Thanks heaps to all the boys that helped out with various bits throughout the day tho, was an awesome vibe! Can't wait to get back out there with the new changes and see what she can do!

[Phat3R]

the bike feels very solid to lock 'in' with as opposed to the 'on' style of the R6.
Body position was something that took a long while to resolve on the R6 so I'm very happy to be almost there on the first day with the new bike!!

Nice write up Owen. I like your description of the R6 positioning for the rider!

What springs you got in the forks right now?

[Turbo]

Nice write up Owen. I like your description of the R6 positioning for the rider!

What springs you got in the forks right now?

Thanks Rick!
Springs are both 1.0 at the moment. I have two new 1.05 that I can either put both in to replace or more likely go half/half - 1.0/1.05.
It's a quick job that I can even do at the track so we'll try it out and see how she goes.

[stevem]

Do they suggest you can run different springs? That is surprising.

[Linden]

Do they suggest you can run different springs? That is surprising.

Not an issue ... look at the M1R forks from mid 80s rebound on one side compression on the other ... also think single sides swing arms etc- just need clamps/axles that are up to distributing the loads correctly

[Turbo]

Yeah, for sure. The whole thing works as one. As Linden says, mine has comp in one and rebound in the other.
It's also a nice way to find a spring weight between two.

[johnnyb]

Thanks Rick!
Springs are both 1.0 at the moment. I have two new 1.05 that I can either put both in to replace or more likely go half/half - 1.0/1.05.
It's a quick job that I can even do at the track so we'll try it out and see how she goes.

I have a 1.10 spring set if you want to try.



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[Turbo]

Ta mate, the Bitibo are a weird size tho.
All good with the ones I have now I reckon. :thumb:

[johnnyb]

Ta mate, the Bitibo are a weird size tho.
All good with the ones I have now I reckon. :thumb:

Oh yes....forgot your using exotic stuff




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[Turbo]

Today's project was making some space for the lap timer and getting rid of the ignition barrel.
First up was grinding off the lock, and as it's a BMW, relocating the key transponder and EWS antenna to behind the dash (thanks for the tip JohnnyB) :)
This keeps the immobiliser happy as, apparently, it can't be flashed out of the ECU.


http://i.imgur.com/pyG2g2Jl.jpg http://i.imgur.com/FhxZBPVl.jpg

Next was a trip to Jaycar to find a suitably cool IP rated switch...

http://i.imgur.com/jbjuyR6l.png

My local store happened to be doing a store clean out and were chucking out some blank rack panels, I rescued one to re-purpose...

http://i.imgur.com/IZIkMPQl.jpg


Hole saw out a big bit....

http://i.imgur.com/kKNxwzrl.jpg


Then a littler bit...

http://i.imgur.com/YxDqgoNl.jpg


Mount the switch...

http://i.imgur.com/hDssEcLl.jpg


With a bit of filing then wet 'n dry and I managed to get it JUST the perfect size to slot in the gap left from the barrel.
Had to mallet it into place and I don't think I could do it again, if I tried!

http://i.imgur.com/znICi8Dl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/apXQHMfl.jpg


Next terminate, heat shrink and mount....

http://i.imgur.com/5rrCtUel.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ybqblDIl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/W7iI92tl.jpg


Boom!! Perfect amount of space for the lap timer, just enough to see the screen from above :thumb:

http://i.imgur.com/M0cslptl.jpg

[Ruckos87]

That's nice work Owen. Looks OEM.
An ignition Barron delete is now on my list.


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[stevem]

Classic

[zoidberg]

Looks awesome Owen. I've been trying to see about getting the immobiliser flashed out of my ECU to get rid of the ignition barrel etc, but I think a relocation is on the cards for me.

Your builds are unreal mate!

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[Leezx10r]

As Plumb said, it looks OEM! Great job mate [emoji106]🏻
Keep the updates coming!


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[Linden]

You should be able to get a good Automotive Locksmith to do you a chip for the sender (so you don't need the real key) - Ben at Annandale Locksmiths - http://www.innerwestsecurity.com/inw_wp/Pages/INW/Automotive.aspx (that's his bike on the web page) that said doesn't mention BMs but it worth an ask

One problem I see is that the ignition hole is a great place for the Thumb Brake Reservoir (see JP's bike ... he really needed the thumb brake :) )

[Turbo]

Thanks for the tip Linden. Paying someone to make a chip might be solving a problem I don't have tho.
A replacement key for the BMW is surprisingly pretty cheap, should it get lost or damaged in a crash. The bulky part is really the antenna. There are some companies that do a lower profile antenna, but thanks to Johnnyb's tip, I needn't spend the coin and it's well out of the way behind the dash.

[Turbo]

That's nice work Owen. Looks OEM.
An ignition Barron delete is now on my list.


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Classic


Looks awesome Owen. I've been trying to see about getting the immobiliser flashed out of my ECU to get rid of the ignition barrel etc, but I think a relocation is on the cards for me.

Your builds are unreal mate!

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As Plumb said, it looks OEM! Great job mate [emoji106]
Keep the updates coming!


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Thanks fellas! I'm pretty happy with how it came out :cool:
Update pic with the power and lap timer to follow...

[Turbo]

Thanks fellas! I'm pretty happy with how it came out :cool:
Update pic with the power and lap timer to follow...

Lap timer hard wired in now, comes on with the bike!! :thumb:

http://i.imgur.com/zQuSelcl.jpg

[Marshy]

What, no mention of the SUPER COOOOOOL blue power button?!?


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[Turbo]

What, no mention of the SUPER COOOOOOL blue power button?!?


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hahahahha, that might actually be my favourite thing on the whole bike....

[stevem]

How did you wire the lap timer in Owen ? Nice.

[zoidberg]

http://i.imgur.com/zQuSelcl.jpg

Oh my god... that button...

http://i.imgur.com/paiZ5Jh.jpg

Damnit! Gotta stop reading Owens build threads...

[Turbo]

How did you wire the lap timer in Owen ? Nice.

I hacked off the plug from the cigarette lighter that came with the lap timer.
Then plugged the other end into a free plug of switched power on the bike.
I think it was the exhaust flapper servo plug... I'll have a look and let you know.

[Turbo]

Oh my god... that button...

http://i.imgur.com/paiZ5Jh.jpg

Damnit! Gotta stop reading Owens build threads...

STOP JIZZING ON MY BIKE!!! :rofl:

[Marshy]

STOP JIZZING ON MY BIKE!!! :rofl:

:pound: :pound: :pound:

[Turbo]

So, I may have discovered a slight issue with the new blue switch and vibration....
:jaw:

http://i.imgur.com/Owez5gjh.png

[Marshy]

You mean you weren't deliberately turning the bike's ignition completely off at the start/finish line to save the fastest lap time into the onboard computer?? I thought that's how the BMW system worked. Besides, you'd finished the lap, so coasting through turn 1 with the engine off is a great way of saving fuel....

[Turbo]

You mean you weren't deliberately turning the bike's ignition completely off at the start/finish line to save the fastest lap time into the onboard computer?? I thought that's how the BMW system worked. Besides, you'd finished the lap, so coasting through turn 1 with the engine off is a great way of saving fuel....

Hahhahaha... nah, I think it's that I was going faster than it's possible to go and the bike just had to take a minute of "Woah, dude.... just woah"

[zoidberg]

So, I may have discovered a slight issue with the new blue switch and vibration....
:jaw:

http://i.imgur.com/Owez5gjh.png

Holy shit! Dead bike? Or just power to the dash gone? False neutral through turn one is scary enough, complete black out would have me crying for my mummy!

Still, that blue button of goodness is worth it. I fucking love that thing Owen! I hope Marshy cleaned up the mess I made of your bike when I was looking at it...

[Turbo]

No power anywhere unforunately! The power button jumped to 'Off'.
Managed to pull in the clutch and just coast to T2 flag point.
Realised what had happened pretty quickly but decided not to re-join the session incase it happened again.



Still, that blue button of goodness is worth it. I fucking love that thing Owen! I hope Marshy cleaned up the mess I made of your bike when I was looking at it...

Hahaha, thanks man! As awesome as it looks tho, it's not designed to deal with heavy vibrations....
I picked up a new toggle style one today.... Couldn't find one with a blue LED tho!! Waaaaaaaaaah!!

[Ruckos87]

I picked up a new toggle style one today.... Couldn't find one with a blue LED tho!! Waaaaaaaaaah!!

Noooooooo surely not. I had high hopes for a blue, back lit switch myself one day.
More research I say, theres got to be a better quality one out there.


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[Mr.Ed]

Since there's no blue led, may I suggest

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2015-dodge-charger-push-button-overlay-go-baby-go-/142032877272?hash=item2111d1b6d8:g:yk8AAOSwPv9XME-a

:heh:

[Marshy]

Since there's no blue led, may I suggest

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2015-dodge-charger-push-button-overlay-go-baby-go-/142032877272?hash=item2111d1b6d8:g:yk8AAOSwPv9XME-a

:heh:

That's coooool!!!! :laugh:

[Turbo]

Noooooooo surely not. I had high hopes for a blue, back lit switch myself one day.
More research I say, theres got to be a better quality one out there.


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I know, Gutted!! I'm all ears for ideas.... Already tried Jaycar, Altronics, Wes Components and element14....




Since there's no blue led, may I suggest

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/2015-dodge-charger-push-button-overlay-go-baby-go-/142032877272?hash=item2111d1b6d8:g:yk8AAOSwPv9XME-a

:heh:

That's fukin badas!!!
They're momentary buttons tho... I need a latching...

[Ruckos87]

http://www.demon-tweeks.co.uk/performance/switches-start-buttons/lma-mini-rocker-switches
Not as ( night rider) cool but at lease there's light


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[Turbo]

Hmmmm, not IP rated unfortunately.

[Marshy]

IP44: http://au.rs-online.com/web/p/rocker-switches/3779759/

Or this one: http://www.narva.com.au/products/detail/413/

I'm trying to work out how to get this to work!!! This is my fave, but it's momentary: https://www.autobarn.com.au/narva-blue-led-starter-switch-12v-50a-60097bl

[Marshy]

LED metal toggle at the bottom: http://www.narva.com.au/products/browse/metal

[Turbo]

None of that is BLUE tho!!

I've got one for now anyway, red LED on top... it's no steel blue tho!

http://i.imgur.com/vjPPiev.jpg

[Ruckos87]

Lol
Nick when up find a gooden let me know I need the do the 09.


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[Linden]

you all know how to put a relay in to allow low voltage and/or lock on actions (google latching relay circuits)

Personally I'd be considering a push button to latch on and the kill switch to disconnect

[Turbo]

Boom!!
It ain't no steel blue but I reckon the bike staying on is worth the compromise!! :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/UTarQSSl.jpg

[Marshy]

And it matches the Bitubo... Win win!!


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[zoidberg]

Boom!!
It ain't no steel blue but I reckon the bike staying on is worth the compromise!! :lol:

http://i.imgur.com/UTarQSSl.jpg

I dunno, I reckon bike intermittently cutting out was worth the blue goodness.

[Leezx10r]

Couldn't help myself

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/89f77fafd7cbe6edbb38120e335ce469.jpg

[Leezx10r]

..

[Turbo]

I dunno, I reckon bike intermittently cutting out was worth the blue goodness.

You're welcome to try...! :lol:


Couldn't help myself

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/89f77fafd7cbe6edbb38120e335ce469.jpg


:rofl:

[Baddie]

Couldn't help myself

http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160722/89f77fafd7cbe6edbb38120e335ce469.jpg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfaa0Sjczik

love that movie...pmsl

[Leezx10r]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfaa0Sjczik

love that movie...pmsl

It gets me every time. [emoji24][emoji24]


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[Linden]

That's fukin badas!!!
They're momentary buttons tho... I need a latching...

Actually that was just for the STICKER

But as I said any switch can be made latching (and any amp) with a relay (just need a way of turning it off ie second switch)

[Turbo]

Sure, but then you need 2 switches and a relay as opposed to the one switch I ended up fitting.
Anyhow, the problem has been solved!

[Turbo]

As I've mentioned a few time on this thread, I've been hitting false neutrals a little too regularly on this bike.
So, the time has come to get it fixed.

The first thing I pointed the finger at was the Vortex rearsets. Using GP shift pattern is a workaround on this bike and I suspected something wasn't quite right, by the feel of the shifts.
Naturally I assumed I knew more than a manual so I threw it out before assembling the rearsets... turns out you have to be VERY accurate with the shift rod assembly:
+/- 0.005!! It'd be an imperial measurement but still... shit!
http://i.imgur.com/DmANmyoh.png

That actually cleared up a lot of shift issues and the QS seemed to be working a lot better. I was still getting false neutrals tho....

Next avenue after talking with Wolfie and Jonnyb, was possibly a new shift detent spring. The shift detent spring is a spring that holds the shift arm to the selector star.
It's a pretty cheap part so I thought I'd give it a try.

First the clutch cover off..

http://i.imgur.com/VCD2PpQl.jpg



Set the motor to Top Dead Centre with my specialised BMW TDC tool... otherwise known as a t-handle ;)

http://i.imgur.com/3H7ZYSYl.jpg



pressure plate off....

http://i.imgur.com/RRyaQ4ll.jpg



friction plates out...

http://i.imgur.com/2Qa5Ovfl.jpg



clutch basket out and there she is...

http://i.imgur.com/dO1AV8hl.jpg



Out comes the shift arm too and you can see the spring around it...

http://i.imgur.com/cldQ0iHl.jpg



Got the new part shipped from these guys..

http://i.imgur.com/Dg0uEQgl.jpg


As you can see, it's a much heavier gauge spring with a lot of resistance to it....

http://i.imgur.com/rkTPDAul.jpg

Back in it goes and GONE are the false neutrals!! The end result is a MUCH more positive 'clunk' into gear and no hint of a false neutral at all, HAPPY DAYS!!


The last couple of mods for the bike is the addition of the 2D Datalogger. It's a GPS and telemetry logger that, at 100Hz, gives a bewildering array of data channels to analyse and ignore :)

http://i.imgur.com/ZI4Ccw8l.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/RBx8ywll.jpg



and the final piece of the Bitubo puzzle, a steering damper to complete the bouncy bits suite...
Can't wait to have a crack on Thursday!! :thumb: :cool:


http://i.imgur.com/iIUroqXl.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/Lm5t4Nyl.jpg

[Marshy]

Niiiiiiiice!

[Wolfie57]

Good work mate, keen to see what you think of the datalogger......

[stevem]

Owen are you getting neutrals on the upshift or downshift ? I had a few in mine early on and went the spring and became very definite with the shifting and the problem went away.Before quick shifters I used to hold the lever up after shifting up (normal pattern) while I nailed it so if it went to jump out it would go straight back in.

[Leezx10r]

Excellent write up Owen, will be great to catch up on Thursday see you there mate [emoji1303]


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[Turbo]

Thanks all!!

Yeah, Steve it was mostly downshifts at the end of the straight so I was coasting through T1!
Good idea with holding the lever up, happily this mod seems to have sorted it completely!

[Turbo]

So I've been chasing a little more in terms of setup with the BMW. The first step was to lengthen the wheelbase and make the gearing a little taller.
The idea being slightly less propensity to wheelie on corner exit, with the ability to get on the gas earlier and harder.
Happily this worked and the bike is firing forward now, much more than go upwards!! Back into the sub 40's for the first time on this bike, which I'm pretty happy with.

The next part of the geometry setup is to try and get some of the turning ability back, after having lengthened the wheelbase, and to get some much needed 'feel' from the front end.
As I've discovered, the BMW are notorious for a vague feeling front end, and you're left sort of trusting it'll hold when you tip in, rather than getting good feedback to push (or not!) on.
I've seen a HEAP of people with the IMA's so I ordered a set of Racing Triples with a bunch of different offset bushes to try as well as their variable angle clipons...

http://i.imgur.com/gJlkoGbh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/HYpfEAch.jpg


They're HEAPS different to the oem in terms of construction. The idea is that the bottom clamp is super sturdy whilst the top clamp has more lateral flex.
This apparently translates into very precise control and improved feeling through the bars for what exactly the road surface, tyre and suspension are doing.
If the end result is even close to the immaculate precision they're engineered with, I've a feeling they're going to be amazing!!

http://i.imgur.com/zPzG770h.jpg

The clip-ons are pretty cool too. Adjustable bar angle from 0 to 7.5 degrees in 2.5 degree increments.
Very robust deign again, strong in all the right places.

http://i.imgur.com/vZ8AfDBh.jpg

Here's a time-lapse of Marshy and me doing the install:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F2sgN-I_Eqc

The last thing for now was what to do with my ignition switch. IMA do one that is a work of art but I didn't really want anything to obscure my lap timer...\
'Launch' button it is then!!

http://i.imgur.com/oka8rflh.png

Test run at the next ARDC day, can't wait!!

[stevem]

Nice Owen, I was talking to Glenn heaps ago about steering head bearing and he had tapered roller bearing and later met the S1000rr engineer and had it explained to him why ball bearings are better with the beemer. I can't remember why but it was enough for Glenn to change back to ball bearings so interesting to see they have ball bearings. Did they come with bearings. Keep in mind Krooztune make a shorter dog bone for the beemer that helped me with edge grip and getting on the gas and driving forward. It was 5mm shorter .

[Turbo]

Nice Owen, I was talking to Glenn heaps ago about steering head bearing and he had tapered roller bearing and later met the S1000rr engineer and had it explained to him why ball bearings are better with the beemer. I can't remember why but it was enough for Glenn to change back to ball bearings so interesting to see they have ball bearings. Did they come with bearings. Keep in mind Krooztune make a shorter dog bone for the beemer that helped me with edge grip and getting on the gas and driving forward. It was 5mm shorter .

Thanks Steve! Yeah, I'd heard that about bearings too. Although I couldn't tell you why either!
IMA don't supply bearings with their triples. The ones I have are just a new OEM set I bought to fit up.
Interesting about the Dog Bone... Is it just like a lowering link type product?
I've actually been looking into getting a linear linkage for that same edge grip and getting on the gas thing...

[stevem]

https://www.krooztune.com/collections/all Give them a call. It was just the dog bone part not the knuckle, $100+ not the $800 or so of the complete linkage. It would be interesting to see you try a 42 rear and second onto the straight with plenty of rear brake also.

[Turbo]

https://www.krooztune.com/collections/all Give them a call. It was just the dog bone part not the knuckle, $100+ not the $800 or so of the complete linkage. It would be interesting to see you try a 42 rear and second onto the straight with plenty of rear brake also.

AWESOME!! That's a great plan, thanks for the info Steve!
I'm deff keen to try a 42, might need to get the thumb brake installed before dropping to 2nd onto the straight tho!

[Wolfie57]

Very interesting guys, keen to see how this works..

[Turbo]

I was lucky enough to get in on the first Australian shipment (and I'm pretty sure, the WORLD!) of IMA's new Thumb Brake System.
The first lot arrived a few days ago and they look just as well designed and engineered as their triples and clip-ons!

http://i.imgur.com/tv2NkcEh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/SxU4Stth.jpg


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJy7Gz58T9o&t

They're available in a few different kits and mounting options. I wanted the lowest profile MC up at the bars, so opted for the Complete F Kit with fork mount.

First job was to assemble the top and rear MC and thumb assembly, in order to work out what length of brake line I'd need and what the best angle of banjo bolt would be.
Basically the length of the red line here:

http://i.imgur.com/dlZC9q9h.jpg


Someone has clearly thought about this!!

http://i.imgur.com/p09sW1rh.jpg

Rear MC fits well too, that gives me a good idea of what angle the banjo will need to be.

http://i.imgur.com/T036SfLh.jpg


I thread some string through the run I wanted to take, from the thumb, through the bike, back to the rear MC. Then, measured it up before ordering the custom length and banjo angles from Hel Australia.

http://i.imgur.com/ZpKmJmlh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/YHB40nsh.jpg

While I was waiting for the braided line to be made, I set about finding a good place to fit a reservoir.
I was tempted to go the HRC shorty reservoir I normally use for the rear, but with such a long line and ideally more use out of the thumb action, I'm thinking there may be more heat expansion so a proper race reservoir would be a good idea.

http://i.imgur.com/iDcQJOih.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/ubbxKkRh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/WYsizPwh.jpg

The line arrived very quickly so I didn't have to wait long for the next step! First up was to tie the banjo to the end of the string I used for measuring.
This made pulling it through the bike a breeze!

http://i.imgur.com/Ju4HAAjh.jpg


Happily the time spent on measurement was worth it and the line was a factory fit!

http://i.imgur.com/22otirnh.jpg

http://i.imgur.com/UeAQFCSh.jpg


Purging the system was a bit of a PITA because I didn't have all the right bits and had to Mcguyver a syringe.. but basically the method is to syringe in the new brake fluid from the caliper, and push out all the air, until it reaches the reservoir at the top.
The 'one wee trick' is to take off both MC's and shake them around as well as actuate the levers to get the last few bubbles out.
After that, I was able to bleed as normal to make sure there were no stray bubbles around. It was actually quite good to use a good amount of brake fluid rather than the tiny amount that normally gets used before you bin the bottle!

http://i.imgur.com/rPGbsYhh.jpg

Last step was to tidy up the lines and secure it to the bike and the loom that I'd run it along.

http://i.imgur.com/LqKXj0Oh.jpg


Can't wait to have a crack!! :cool: :cool:

[Slow bro]

Let me know how it goes ( very interested). I've left a message with Nick but he hasn't got back to me yet.

[Turbo]

Will do mate. When are you out next??

[stevem]

Nice work Dovi.

[Slow bro]

Will do mate. When are you out next??

Haven't booked anything yet.

[Petefrost]

Nice work Owen. Really nice. So did you run the line over the engine? Where does it exit?

[Turbo]

Nice work Owen. Really nice. So did you run the line over the engine? Where does it exit?

Thanks Pete! I ran it along the underside of the loom. Exit at the front is shown in the pic with the pink string tied to the banjo.
Exit at the rear is shown in the last pic. :thumb:

[Slow98]

I fitted mine up last night to the Panigale. I used the oem mc and purchased the bar mount. Hind sight i would have got the fork mount as there wasnt enough room on the bars to just throw it on , also the Pani runs a hydraulic clutch, so I have 2 reservoirs side by side .
Another tip ...... I have purchased on EBay a couple of banjo bolts with bleeder valves in them , its a bitch of a system to get the air out of . Be a month before I can try it out .

[Turbo]

Nice work Dovi.

:flame::pound:

[Marshy]

This looks AMAZEBALLS!!!! Can't wait to fit mine up too.... I was just waiting for you to iron out all the fitting wrinkles, and then mine'll be easy ;)

[Marshy]

Let me know how it goes ( very interested). I've left a message with Nick but he hasn't got back to me yet.

Sorry mate! Been a bit chaotic here lately. Will call you back first thing in the morning :D

[Ruckos87]

This looks AMAZEBALLS!!!! Can't wait to fit mine up too.... I was just waiting for you to iron out all the fitting wrinkles, and then mine'll be easy ;)

Lol me too.
Great work Owen. Thanks for doing the install leg work


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